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Can I slow play this set?
Feel like I may have made mistakes on every street. No good data on villains.
Ultimate Bet No Limit Holdem Ring game Blinds: $0.05./$0.10. 5 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: $9.69 CO: $8.95 Button: $9.02 SB: $11.29 Hero: $10 Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG folds, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $0.3</font>, SB folds, Hero calls, CO calls. I call here because I really don't want to play TT OOP vs. two possible unknowns. Perhaps a 3-bet pushes CO out so it's advisable? Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($0.95, 3 players) Hero checks, CO checks, Button checks. in a raised pot and 2 other people involved I figure someone should rep the ace, and the board isn't draw heavy (given PF action) so I'm thinking I'll go for the C-R on the turn. Disappointed when nobody bets Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($0.95, 3 players) <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $0.7</font>, CO calls, Button folds. okay, I'll lead here, build a pot. Still likely way ahead River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($2.35, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $2</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $5</font>, Hero calls. value bet the river (maybe a little too much). With the raise I hope for 2-pair, but I'm paying off the 9 Results: Final pot: $12.35 |
#2
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Re: Can I slow play this set?
by 3betting preflop, you're giving your opponents (another)chance to fold which may win you the pot outright.
this is a dream flop for your hand and i feel like you're losing a tonne of value declining to bet it. TT wrecks my head OOP, i'm interested to hear other people's thoughts. |
#3
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Re: Can I slow play this set?
I 3bet here to find out where I'm at, isolate, and take the betting lead if I don't get 4bet. Or I call, depends on villain. However I do bet this flop every time and hope someone has an ace. Never slowplay anything but like quads at NL10 it will just cause you misery.
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#4
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Re: Can I slow play this set?
Preflop is marginal, I sometimes 3bet, but call is fine for reasons you stated.
Flop is certainly lead. We don't know that BTN will cbet into 2 opponents, and anyway we are going for his stack, not a poor cbet. If he has an ace you are winning a decent pot of him no matter what you do, but you can control the action to get all of his stack if you lead yourself. If button has a weak ace, do NOT allow him to take a pot control line and check behind on the flop. Certainly lead the flop. Turn seems fine. River lead is fine, but shvove over his raise. You will see 77/66/88 or aces up so much. My god, PLEASE shove the river for value and get that last little piece of his stack. Do you really put him on a 9 here? |
#5
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Re: Can I slow play this set?
I would definitly reraise preflop. CO looks weak and BTN makes a tiny bet that doesn't look to strong as well.
With a good hand preflop I like to reraise the button everytime because he often has garbage and I don't want to let him see the flop cheaply. Ok, on to the hand as played: Pretty standard to check the flop I think, hoping for a c-bet (but I personally don't like to lead out into the preflop raiser, so I might be biased) The lead on the turn is good. You get value from aces and 2-pair hands, and protect your hand against T9 and 78 making a straight. It's ok to bet on the river, to get some value from 2 pair. I would bet half the pot. If you get raised you have to let it go. You are not going to be reraised by someone who has 2 pair on this board I think. |
#6
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Re: Can I slow play this set?
even if button cbs every single flop, i'm still going to lead into him. i think most people agree that doing so is much more profitable long term than playing to snap off 1 extra bet. if i get raised, maybe i'll give the lead back, maybe i won't. depends on the villain.
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#7
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Re: Can I slow play this set?
I think you played it fine. Since we have absolutely no read pf I donīt understand why we are 3betting pf. An insane number of people raise like 4% of their hands. TT is a good hand and I 3bet it all the time but just calling is fine too. On the flop I would cr too, if mr pfr checks an ace on the flop it is with the intention of trapping with a sneaky turn minraise, not for pot control. I think you lost very very little value when the flop was checked thru vs a lead.
Also, I would just want to add that checking to the pfr is not slowplaying. |
#8
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Re: Can I slow play this set?
Bet flop, plenty worse hands call if not raise.
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#9
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Re: Can I slow play this set?
I like the call preflop. I'd 3-bet only when I'm pretty certain I can get it heads-up. I'd hate to play this against two callers like there is potential for here. Flop is a common play for me. Is the check here OOP wrong or what? Anyway, turn is fine. You bet a little much on the river. I don't think you can get a whole bunch of value out of many hands here so I'd bet half the pot. Less is okay and 2/3 might be okay, but no more.
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#10
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Re: Can I slow play this set?
I like to lead the flop because it looks like a donk bet into a raiser. You'll hopefully get reraised by somebody not liking donk bets. I don't like the check raise because it screams "I flopped a monster and you've just fallen into my trap". Check raises raise a lot of suspicion, when a lead builds a pot a looks pretty standard.
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