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Old 08-05-2007, 01:05 PM
old dogg old dogg is offline
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Default Global warming trap.

There is a problem with global warming... it stopped in 1998. There was actually a slight decrease in the earth`s temperture during the years 1995 through 2005.
In responce to these facts, a global warming devotee will say "how silly to judge climate change over such a short period of time". Yet the same person will assure you that the 28year long period of which occured between 1970 and 1998 constitutes a dangerous and man-made warming. Our devotee will also pass by the fact that a period of similar warming occured between 1918 and 1940, well before the greatest phase of world industrialisation, and that cooling occured between 1940 and 1965 at precisely the time that human emission were increasing at their greatest rate.
Does something seem odd here? That industrial carbon dioxide is not the primary cause of global warming. It doesn`t seem at all odd to thousands of independent scientists. They have long appreciated that such short-term climate fluctuations are chiefly of natural origin. Yet the public appears to be convinced otherwise. How can this be possible?
Since the 1990s the columns of newspapers and magazines have carried letters and articles on human-caused climate change. Many involve such deep dreaming, or ignorance of scientific facts that they are akin to nonsense.
The problem here is not climate change, but rather that of sophisticated scientific brainwashing. The global warming alarmist and goverments alike generally choose not to receive advice on climate from independent scientists. Rather, they seek guidance from their own self-interested science bureaucacies and advisers.
I hope Al Gore is still alive when his alarmist fantasy is finally proved wrong. It`s such a shame he has used such a sky is falling approach to argue for policy changes. Decreasing pollution and minimizing the destruction of our environment now play second fiddle to climate catastrophe, and we all lose. It`s absolute insanity, but if we are lucky we`ll get to see Al Gore eat some crow over his climate change scam and we`ll get to see some real progress in cleaning up our environment.
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Old 08-05-2007, 01:09 PM
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US government made it all up to slow economic growth of other developed countries
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Old 08-05-2007, 02:12 PM
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Default Re: Global warming trap.

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US government made it all up to slow economic growth of other developed countries

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No silly, it was a false flag planted by the US government to justify invasion of other countries for their resources.
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Old 08-05-2007, 02:39 PM
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Default Re: Global warming trap.

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US government made it all up to slow economic growth of other developed countries

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No silly, it was a false flag planted by the US government to justify invasion of other countries for their resources.

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Actually the government did invent global warming. We developed this huge device to actually increase the temperature of the world, so as to give us reasons to start wars with other countries.
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Old 08-05-2007, 01:24 PM
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Decreasing pollution and minimizing the destruction of our environment now play second fiddle to climate catastrophe, and we all lose.

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Concern over climate change and emphasis on decreasing pollution/protecting environment are not mutually exclusive. In fact, they are very highly correlated.
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Old 08-05-2007, 01:36 PM
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I am so glad you posted evidence to back up all your claims. This will certainly turn into a interesting and thoughtfull debate with your continued involvement.
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Old 08-05-2007, 02:07 PM
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There is a problem with global warming... it stopped in 1998. There was actually a slight decrease in the earth`s temperture during the years 1995 through 2005.

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Is this a troll post or are you truly misinformed?

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming

The earth is warming, and in fact the warming has accelerated between 1998 and 2006. This is unequivocal. The "debate" is about the nature of the cause, although it's not really a debate any more, just a few loud shills and documentary makers.

Looks like Nielsio is doing his job well. Bravo, sir.
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Old 08-05-2007, 04:49 PM
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The problem here is not climate change, but rather that of sophisticated scientific brainwashing. The global warming alarmist and goverments alike generally choose not to receive advice on climate from independent scientists. Rather, they seek guidance from their own self-interested science bureaucacies and advisers.
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Old 08-06-2007, 12:11 AM
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The problem here is not climate change, but rather that of sophisticated scientific brainwashing. The global warming alarmist and goverments alike generally choose not to receive advice on climate from independent scientists. Rather, they seek guidance from their own self-interested science bureaucacies and advisers.

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citations please--everyone can come up with their own conclusions, but some of us would like to see where you are coming from.
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Old 08-06-2007, 12:18 AM
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The problem here is not climate change, but rather that of sophisticated scientific brainwashing. The global warming alarmist and goverments alike generally choose not to receive advice on climate from independent scientists. Rather, they seek guidance from their own self-interested science bureaucacies and advisers.

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citations please--everyone can come up with their own conclusions, but some of us would like to see where you are coming from.

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old dogg doesn't have time for your silly "citations." That's not his style!
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