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Old 08-05-2007, 12:14 AM
chuckpalms04 chuckpalms04 is offline
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Default $16 A9s on bubble sngwiz says fold?

Hand is against known 2+2er who will obviously be pwning bubble here and i figure to be way ahead of his range but sngwiz says fold even if he's pushing as high as 70%? i don't get it maybe someone could explain so i don't feel so fishy.


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Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t5945</font>, Hero calls t1880 (All-In)
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Old 08-05-2007, 12:40 AM
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Default Re: $16 A9s on bubble sngwiz says fold?

you want to be the pusher with a9s not the caller.
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Old 08-05-2007, 02:58 PM
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Default Re: $16 A9s on bubble sngwiz says fold?

bump, would like some better analysis plz - bubble play when i'm short is my weakest part so i'd really appreciate some help.
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Old 08-05-2007, 03:01 PM
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Default Re: $16 A9s on bubble sngwiz says fold?

villian is pushing 100% here, or at least should be, what do the sngwiz numbers say about that? i feel like its a call, if he has been pwning the bubble you ARE NOT going to be able to get it in better than this
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Old 08-05-2007, 03:06 PM
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Default Re: $16 A9s on bubble sngwiz says fold?

If he's good pretty sure its a call.

EDIT: Oops was thinking you were BB, I'd still be a little looser than ICM would dictate cause you're about to have 0 FE and you're behind the other 2 stacks, seems like a call but close. Oh and it looks like it really depends on how tight BB is calling, SNGWiz has you calling if he doesnt call looser than JJ+ AK, which is too tight I think but you're about to have no FE kinda offsets it, unless he's calling somewhat loose for the situation you should probably call.
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Old 08-05-2007, 03:14 PM
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Default Re: $16 A9s on bubble sngwiz says fold?

it says if he's pushing 100% and bb is only over-calling TT+ AQs+, it's a fold and i should only be calling 77+, AJ+, ATs+, KQs.. the EV diff. is +.01%
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Old 08-05-2007, 03:14 PM
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Default Re: $16 A9s on bubble sngwiz says fold?

sngpt says this is a clear call if he's pushing 70%.
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Old 08-05-2007, 03:17 PM
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Default Re: $16 A9s on bubble sngwiz says fold?

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it says if he's pushing 100% and bb is only over-calling TT+ AQs+, it's a fold and i should only be calling 77+, AJ+, ATs+, KQs.. the EV diff. is +.01%

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This is a situation where the ICM answer isn't necessarily the right one, if the other 2 are playing decent we only have one possible shove left that has any FE and they arent going out before us very often.
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Old 08-05-2007, 03:19 PM
chuckpalms04 chuckpalms04 is offline
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Default Re: $16 A9s on bubble sngwiz says fold?

hm maybe there's something weird going on in sngwiz there
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Old 08-05-2007, 03:22 PM
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Default Re: $16 A9s on bubble sngwiz says fold?

Does SNGPT take into account callers behind you? If it does I can't figure out how, seems like it can only deal with you closing the action.
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