Not sure about this ruling...

pocket300 · #1 08-04-2007, 07:01 PM

Weird Spot last night at my table I was not involved in the hand though

Tournament Blinds are 2k/4k
15 People left, top 8 get paid
Button is in seat 10

Seat 5 Raises to 15k Pre flop

Seat 8 re raises all in to 22,500 (another 7500)

The dealer counts out the stack, and seat 5 DOES NOT ANNOUNCE call, the dealer says flip up your cards. Not realizing that seat 8 had more chips, seat 5 flips up his cards and shows A8. Seat 8 shows A9. The dealer burns and runs the flop of Q73. After realizing what had happened, the dealers asks Seat 5 if he called. After someone else says they also had A8 but it was mucked preflop Seat 5 objects that he didnt call. The floor is called over...What should the correct ruling be in this situation?

I will post what the floor had decided after a few responses...

Cornell Fiji · #2 08-04-2007, 07:22 PM

this sucks because seat 5 is pot committed to a call... even if he knows that someone else mucked A8.

I would love to say that seat 5 did not protect his action but it seems unfair to force an all in on him even though he would have called anyway.

I am not a trained floorman but I am pretty sure that it would be correct to rule that the flop is pulled back and the deck is reshuffled and seat 5 is given the option to call. This seems to be the only reasonable play because you can't force someone to put chips into the pot when he did not call.

Chipr777 · #3 08-04-2007, 07:23 PM

There is still action pending so either way the flop has to come back. Seat 5 has the option on if he's going to call the raise. If he calls the flop comes back. The stub and flop (not the burn) are re-shuffled and a new flop comes out without a burn.

youtalkfunny · #4 08-05-2007, 01:43 AM

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I am not a trained floorman but I am pretty sure that it would be correct to rule that the flop is pulled back and the deck is reshuffled and seat 5 is given the option to call.

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In my experience, there's no such thing as a "trained" floorman. You get thrown into the job, and it's sink or swim.

I'm not a trained floorman, but I am an experienced floorman...and I agree with your ruling.