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Trying to plug the donk call leak...
Hi all,
As I mentioned in yesterday's post, I'm trying to plug what I consider to be my biggest current leak--making donk calls in marginal situations. I'm still having a tough time adjusting, so I thought I would post another hand and ask for your thoughts. 13 left in a 4/180. I am playing pretty tight and very aggressive (21/15/2.6). Villain is 14/9/2.3 over 66 hands. SB: (19775 in chips) BB: (17436 in chips) UTG: (15764 in chips) Hero: (24262 in chips) CO: (6806 in chips) BU: (3143 in chips) Blinds 400/800/75. Hero in MP with K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Action: 1 fold, Hero raises 1600 to 2400; 3 folds; BB calls 1600. Flop 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] BB checks, Hero bets 3500; BB raises 11461 to 14961 and is all-in; Hero? I think that pre-flop and CBet following check are standard, but I'm a bit stumped about how to handle the check-raise. I put villain on something like TT+, AQ+, but I also think something speculative like 9Ts or JTs are (slight) possibilities. I'm desperately trying to find a way to break my ridiculous habit of donking off my stack, without having Barry write "pussy" in his notes on me. |
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Re: Trying to plug the donk call leak...
have nearly same pb
would apreciate any answer as well |
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Re: Trying to plug the donk call leak...
I'm not sure how similar the $11s play in comparison to the $4s, but after betting it's an easy fold for me. I may occasionally take the free card when checked to as well (occasionally doing this with a made hand as well as to not get predictable).
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Re: Trying to plug the donk call leak...
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I'm not sure how similar the $11s play in comparison to the $4s, but after betting it's an easy fold for me. I may occasionally take the free card when checked to as well (occasionally doing this with a made hand as well as to not get predictable). [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: Trying to plug the donk call leak...
You realize with your read it's a call? You're only a 40% dog getting 1.7:1 ...
If I have been very aggressive as you write, once in a while I'll check a flop like this in position, figuring that either - I'll hit on the turn, or - I'll have the option of either betting the turn or seeing the river for free if BB checks again, or - I'll push BB of a weak hand if he bets a (non-threatening) turn. Always c-betting tends to be exploited at all buy-ins. |
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Re: Trying to plug the donk call leak...
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Always c-betting tends to be exploited at all buy-ins. [/ QUOTE ] Thanks for your reply. I am CBetting ~80% against a single opponent, depending on the flop, regardless of whether I have a made hand or not. Is that standard? Too much? Too little? |
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Re: Trying to plug the donk call leak...
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I am CBetting ~80% against a single opponent, depending on the flop [/ QUOTE ] Believe me, I'm not out to get you here, but what does that actually mean? EDIT: OK, I think I understood it ... you're betting the top 80% non-scariest flops, right? If so that's probably fine, even though I'd recommend taking the style of the opponent into consideration a lot. Still, if you only check very suited/coordinated flops after PF raising you're still exploitable ... btw., if you don't want to fold to a CR you should probably c-bet bigger making the decission easier ... |
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Re: Trying to plug the donk call leak...
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[ QUOTE ] I am CBetting ~80% against a single opponent, depending on the flop [/ QUOTE ] Believe me, I'm not out to get you here, but what does that actually mean? [/ QUOTE ] It means a few things. Assuming for a second that I'm on AK: Opponents and position: Against 1 opponent, I'm CBetting about 80% of the time taking the flop into account (see next point), whether leading or checked to in position. Against 2 opponents, I'm at the same ~80% if checked to in position, otherwise I'm more likely to check unless the opponents are the "call anything pre-flop, fold to any aggression post-flop" types of players. Against 3 or more opponents, I'll almost always check. Flop: With flops that seem possible to hit him but not me (e.g. 89T, JTx, QTx, QJx), I'm more likely to check. Against ragged flops or flops with only 1 high card, I'm almost certainly CBetting. On average I'm at ~80% against 1 opponent or if checked to in position against two opponents. Made hand or not: Against 1 opponent, I follow the same rule regardless of whether I made the hand or not, because I want to avoid predictability. Against 2 or more opponents, I will always bet a made hand in order to prevent someone from sucking out a draw. Is this a reasonable approach, or am I missing something? |
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