NL200 - River overbet

[mack848]

Villain is a short stack and new to the table - no reads.

Maximising value, or losing it?


Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (BB): $221.15
MP1: $176.30
BTN: $55.80

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (8 Players)
2 folds, MP1 calls $2.00, 2 folds, BTN calls $2.00, SB folds, Hero checks

Flop: ($7) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($7) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $7.00</font>, MP1 folds, BTN calls $7.00

River: ($21) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $48.00</font>

[da_fume]

Losing value in my opinion. When there is a straight on the board why would you do this without the nuts? He has to have a 9 for him to consider calling.

[BT2]

i would have bet smaller. if he ha a 9 he will prolly push anyway.

[mack848]

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Losing value in my opinion. When there is a straight on the board why would you do this without the nuts? He has to have a 9 for him to consider calling.

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I do have the nuts. I put him on a 9.

[CallMeJohn]

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Losing value in my opinion. When there is a straight on the board why would you do this without the nuts? He has to have a 9 for him to consider calling.

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I do have the nuts. I put him on a 9.

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If you put him on a 9, then check and let him try to VB you and you can push.

If he has a 9, this whole thing is academic.

[RyanCMU]

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Losing value in my opinion. When there is a straight on the board why would you do this without the nuts? He has to have a 9 for him to consider calling.

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I do have the nuts. I put him on a 9.

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If you put him on a 9, then check and let him try to VB you and you can push.

If he has a 9, this whole thing is academic.

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Checking to him even if yout hink he has a 9 is too risky...

Just fire $15-20 on the river.

[da_fume]

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Losing value in my opinion. When there is a straight on the board why would you do this without the nuts? He has to have a 9 for him to consider calling.

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I do have the nuts. I put him on a 9.

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Yeah, I was saying that good players will realize what you have. I don't think it's terrible, like SABR says, it will work some of the time against the right people. A smaller bet will work a higher percentage of the time against a lot of people.

[SABR42]

Some donks will get stubborn and play the board even.

I like the push.

[Albert Moulton]

I think you're losing value. Only a 9x hand will call. All sets, 2-pairs, and 1-pairs probably fold.

Just value bet 3/4 pot to get those hands to look you up and hope that he raises with a 9x hand.

[SABR42]

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All sets, 2-pairs, and 1-pairs probably fold.

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Those hands can't beat the board...

It's either all or nothing here.