Thin overbet value shove

Colombo · #1 08-03-2007, 02:16 PM

Villain is 50/15 and is your standard fish. He's been calling too much, etc. Somehow his AF is 4, I'm not sure how though. We do have history. Earlier he raised pf and i called. I called his flop bet, raised his turn bet, and then he c/f to my river shove.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Button ($274.90)
SB ($448.40)
BB ($471.40)
Hero ($1044.90)
MP ($436)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $14, 2 folds, SB calls $12, 1 fold.

Flop: ($32) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $24, SB calls $24.

Turn: ($80) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $62, SB calls $62.

River: ($204) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $944.9 (All-In)

Villain has to call $350.

Given history, etc. I thought a shove here would look weak and I would get looked up by 66-99, JT, 9T. I debated for a long time between something like $125 and a shove, but went with this.

mike0292 · #2 08-03-2007, 02:20 PM

I would bet 180 and I think that gets looked up more than 2x as much.

Would like this better if you had AT+ because you could be stacking yourself here vs. AT/KT.

willw9 · #3 08-03-2007, 02:23 PM

I like it and I agree with your reasoning. Of course you could be valuestacking yourself vs. AT/KT, but that's why it's thin...

ztan ivey · #4 08-03-2007, 02:23 PM

just bet 150-200

tcorbin16 · #5 08-03-2007, 02:25 PM

i like

jfish · #6 08-03-2007, 02:28 PM

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I would bet 180 and I think that gets looked up more than 2x as much.

Would like this better if you had AT+ because you could be stacking yourself here vs. AT/KT.

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Redgrape · #7 08-03-2007, 02:38 PM

180 is better.

LuckyDice · #8 08-03-2007, 02:46 PM

I'd really like this if you had AT. With QT though, I think 150-180 would be much better. I think you'll get looked up more often and won't value stack yourself to KT+

Pasterbator · #9 08-03-2007, 02:47 PM

with AT its great.

with KT is good.

with QT is very close.

too eazy · #10 08-03-2007, 03:44 PM

this is only good if you're mixing in enough bluffs (Against players you have experience against).

Against randoms who might be frustrated at your general loose play it's great.