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Old 08-02-2007, 11:30 PM
freeucm freeucm is offline
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Default Finding myself in tough spots with weak kickers

Getting Hand History Information...
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Hand #45060288-5 at SnG-5109g (No Limit Hold'em Sit and Go)
Started at 02/Aug/07 23:27:42

cezanne is at seat 0 with 3300.
badbeatben26 is at seat 1 with 50.
freeucm is at seat 2 with 1500.
beagleman52 is at seat 3 with 1420.
cantoosh is at seat 4 with 1620.
sevenhi is at seat 5 with 1470.
dickido is at seat 6 with 1470.
AuntTea is at seat 7 with 1480.
goalie0216 is at seat 8 with 1150.
suazoraiders is at seat 9 with 1540.
The button is at seat 0.

badbeatben26 posts the small blind of 20.
freeucm posts the big blind of 40.

cezanne: -- --
badbeatben26: -- --
freeucm: Jd Tc
beagleman52: -- --
cantoosh: -- --
sevenhi: -- --
dickido: -- --
AuntTea: -- --
goalie0216: -- --
suazoraiders: -- --

Pre-flop:

beagleman52 calls. cantoosh folds. sevenhi calls.
dickido calls. AuntTea calls. goalie0216 folds.
suazoraiders calls. cezanne calls. badbeatben26
folds. freeucm checks.

Flop (board: Td 7s 4s):

freeucm bets 160. beagleman52 folds. sevenhi folds.
dickido raises to 320. AuntTea folds.
suazoraiders folds. cezanne folds. freeucm

Pokerzion was down at time of post, im finding myself in spots of just c/f , bet if reraised push/fold?
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Old 08-02-2007, 11:44 PM
hoyasaxa hoyasaxa is offline
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Default Re: Finding myself in tough spots with weak kickers

in this situation i like to bet out and fold to a raise
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Old 08-02-2007, 11:48 PM
ymu ymu is offline
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Default Re: Finding myself in tough spots with weak kickers

I don't bet out here. You're looking for a lot more than top pair crap kicker on a super coordinated flop when 6 others limped in.

If someone bets this flop in a plausible way, there are no good cards for you on the turn - if it's a T you may be outkicked, if it's a J then 89 just made the straight, if it's a spade the flush made it. Short of running Ts or running Js, you won't know where you are whatever happens on the next 2 cards.

Check and fold if anyone makes a plausible bet.

If you do put any more in the pot, accept the fact that you will have to offer the draws great odds because you don't have enough to raise with and promise yourself that you will fold if any card above a 7 or a spade hits on the turn or river and your opponent still likes his hand.
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Old 08-02-2007, 11:57 PM
DevinLake DevinLake is offline
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Default Re: Finding myself in tough spots with weak kickers

b/f and c/f are both reasonable lines. With this many to the flop I'd probably just go with c/f.
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