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Old 08-01-2007, 01:40 PM
Makonnen Makonnen is offline
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Default 25NL AKo Am I EVER Good Here?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

<u>OtherVillain (SB): $33.75</u>
BB: $7.65
UTG: $7.45
UTG+1: $24.55
MP1: $28.45
MP2: $9.65
MP3: $39.55
<u>DonkVillain (CO): $48.95</u>
<u>Makonnen (BTN): $50.05</u>

Reads: <font color="blue">DonkVillain is 73/25/3.5
OtherVillain is 35/3/2</font>

Preflop: Makonnen is dealt K A (9 Players)
4 folds, MP3 calls $0.25, DonkVillain calls $0.25, <font color="red">Makonnen raises to $1.25</font>, OtherVillain calls $1.15, BB calls $1.00, MP3 calls $1.00, DonkVillain calls $1.00

Flop: ($6.25) 2 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
OtherVillain checks, BB checks, MP3 checks, <font color="red">DonkVillain bets $1.75</font>, <font color="red">Makonnen raises to $8.00</font>, OtherVillain calls $8.00, 2 folds, <font color="red">DonkVillain raises all-in to $47.70</font>

Now what? I mean, my instinct is that if you make that kind of raise, get called and then r/r, you can't be good. But the r/r-er is such a donk here. I'm on his immediate left: should I just fold and wait? Or, is this my chance to go through him and should I shove?
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Old 08-01-2007, 01:52 PM
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Default Re: 25NL AKo Am I EVER Good Here?

With those stats, I think I'm calling the AI here.
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Old 08-01-2007, 02:22 PM
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Default Re: 25NL AKo Am I EVER Good Here?

I think this is an easy call if you have 100BB. As deep as you are, i still think this is call.

DonkVillain is loose and aggro. You crush his range (which i would say is mostly Ax and the occasional random 2) If he was 75/0/0.2, i might be worried that he has a 2.

Othervillain's line is strange. What is he calling a raise and re-raise with? AJ+ or a flush draw? i don't think a 2 is in his range. You crush his range too so call.
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Old 08-01-2007, 03:08 PM
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Default Re: 25NL AKo Am I EVER Good Here?

Donkvillan limp/called PF (before your raise) &amp; is 75/25/3.5?

Over how many hands? Because...think abt it..if you're 75 PF &amp; raise 25% of the time, what kind of junk do you limp with?

I call this push all day. (And mentally berate myself if he hits the baby flush w/ hit "sooted" card or has a deuce.)
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Old 08-01-2007, 03:34 PM
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I think it is a call. I think as soon as you made that big raise you committed yourself to the hand. The only hand that he could have that you are worried about is AA or 22 other than that you are fine.
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Old 08-01-2007, 04:04 PM
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This is interesting. A very trusted friend called me all sorts of equine names for this play, insisting that when someone r/r/r a big r/r, TPTK no g00t. The larger issue here is what do large r/r's do to our estimated range for villains? Like, does he really do that with 2 random spades?
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Old 08-01-2007, 04:07 PM
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This is interesting. A very trusted friend called me all sorts of equine names for this play, insisting that when someone r/r/r a big r/r, TPTK no g00t. The larger issue here is what do large r/r's do to our estimated range for villains? Like, does he really do that with 2 random spades?

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If that is what your friend told you then you can't trust his advice anymore.

I am being serious(and coy).

Do you see why?
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Old 08-01-2007, 04:24 PM
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I think it is a call. I think as soon as you made that big raise you committed yourself to the hand. The only hand that he could have that you are worried about is AA or 22 other than that you are fine.

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Nope, you're also worried about A2, K2, Q2 J2 etc. As loose as loose as these two are, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see one turn over a 2.
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Old 08-01-2007, 04:33 PM
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3.5 is SUPER aggressive for someone with a 70+vpip. I call, and am pretty happy about it tbh.
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Old 08-01-2007, 04:41 PM
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I think it is a call. I think as soon as you made that big raise you committed yourself to the hand. The only hand that he could have that you are worried about is AA or 22 other than that you are fine.

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Nope, you're also worried about A2, K2, Q2 J2 etc. As loose as loose as these two are, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see one turn over a 2.

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Heh, not sure what sorta drugs I was on when I offered up my range. You are right that other 2's are in there.
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