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Old 08-01-2007, 01:35 PM
gemmer gemmer is offline
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Default 2/4 hand vs hoss

Hoss is MP
BB is big fish who 3bets pf when he feels like it (52s etc.) and coldcalls lots of stuff pf. His stats are 42/18 with a wtsd of 46 over 300 hands.

I'm running bad, fish and hoss running good, hand:


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Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB caps</font>, Hero calls, MP calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, MP calls.

Turn: (7.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, BB folds, Hero
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Old 08-01-2007, 01:44 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 hand vs hoss

never, ever, ever, ever fold this
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Old 08-01-2007, 01:45 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 hand vs hoss

also you badly misplayed the flop IMO
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Old 08-01-2007, 01:59 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 hand vs hoss

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never, ever, ever, ever fold this

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I wasn't thinking about folding, thinking about 3betting..
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Old 08-01-2007, 02:00 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 hand vs hoss

lol
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Old 08-01-2007, 02:01 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 hand vs hoss

not sure why you didnt raise the flop.
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Old 08-01-2007, 02:02 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 hand vs hoss

this hand is a mess since you didn't raise the flop. 3balling the turn makes no sense to me.
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Old 08-01-2007, 02:57 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 hand vs hoss

3-betting the turn is very tempting but I certainly just call down here. I think you should raise the flop.
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Old 08-01-2007, 03:07 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 hand vs hoss

Alright I agree its better to standardly raise the flop.
But this is 2/4, which is all about tricky play and deception. I was hoping hoss would raise behind me so I could 3bet. And I figured they'd have 2-5outs each, with some of their outs being dirty.
Also I had been fastplaying all my hands since this hand happened.
But again, I agree raising the flop is best.
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Old 08-01-2007, 03:14 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 hand vs hoss

I think you should 3 bet the turn given what I've seen posted here about Hoss and how he can have lots of draws here and also how he can call the river super light. You miss a bet by just calling and check/calling. On a less draw heavy board calling this and checkraising the river seems reasonable too.

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