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Old 08-01-2007, 09:39 AM
darinvg darinvg is offline
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Default $60: QQ, guess flop

Ding ding ding, an ace! Unknown villain. Look good?

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No Limit Holdem Tournament

Blinds: t50/t100
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: t2425
UTG+1: t3000
CO: t3090
Hero: t1585
SB: t2290
BB: t1110

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t250</font>, SB calls t200 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t400)</font>, BB folds.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t600, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t600, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets t100</font>, Hero calls t100 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t700)</font>.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t800, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets t400</font>, Hero calls t400
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Old 08-01-2007, 09:43 AM
Little John Little John is offline
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Default Re: $60: QQ, guess flop

i guessed a K flop, i suck.

you need to be good about 25% on the rive and i guess you are good about 26%. that bet of 400 makes me think he has something. i could see him betting 200-300 with junk. i think call is a tiny bit better than fold on river. everything else looks real good.
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Old 08-01-2007, 10:34 AM
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Default Re: $60: QQ, guess flop

looks ok
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Old 08-01-2007, 10:38 AM
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Default Re: $60: QQ, guess flop

Id call because of the draws out there, but I wouldnt like doing so.
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Old 08-01-2007, 11:52 AM
Chipchucker5 Chipchucker5 is offline
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Default Re: $60: QQ, guess flop

I like c-betting the flop for 300ish and shutting down if called. Most people play pretty straightforwardly with an ace out there.

P.S. I guessed an AKx flop...I suck too
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Old 08-01-2007, 12:00 PM
skreemer7 skreemer7 is offline
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Default Re: $60: QQ, guess flop

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I like c-betting the flop for 300ish and shutting down if called. Most people play pretty straightforwardly with an ace out there.

P.S. I guessed an AKx flop...I suck too

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everything here is what I was about to post.


arguments against cbetting flop anyone?
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Old 08-01-2007, 12:10 PM
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Default Re: $60: QQ, guess flop

If you c-bet flop and he calls you still don't know where you are. You're out of position so keeping the pot smaller is a better idea imo. If you check call you are giving him a chance to bluff or bet a weaker hand.
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Old 08-01-2007, 12:22 PM
skreemer7 skreemer7 is offline
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Default Re: $60: QQ, guess flop

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If you c-bet flop and he calls you still don't know where you are. You're out of position so keeping the pot smaller is a better idea imo. If you check call you are giving him a chance to bluff or bet a weaker hand.

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I like this reasoning....if we had position cbet flop, check turn, value bet river if villain is quiet through it all? I think villan bets turn or river with the A so after 2 checks on turn/river valueing on river is good?
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Old 08-01-2007, 12:25 PM
TruFloridaGator TruFloridaGator is offline
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Default Re: $60: QQ, guess flop

C/betting sucks, like sonneti said, we'd like to get some value from hands we're behind. I like how you played it but I could fold the river to some villains. I could also push pf if I'm unlikely to ever get re-raised pf.
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