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Hey everyone, this is my first post at 2+2. I've been playing online poker for several months now and only recently I became very motivated to improve my game so this is why I'm here.
Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t40 (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com MP (t855) Hero (t1565) SB (t1675) BB (t1065) UTG (t3840) Preflop: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG calls t40, MP calls t40, Hero calls t40, SB completes, BB checks. Flop: (t200) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t150</font>, SB folds, BB calls t150, UTG calls t150, MP folds. Turn: (t650) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t320</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t875 (All-In)</font>, UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero ???</font> So this hand is fairly early in the sng, 10 or so hands in. On the turn the pot is t500 and I complete my straight, unfortunately that card also completes the spade flush draws. I lead out for t320 to price out high spade cards but I get popped all in by the BB. He seemed like a decent player with adequate sharkscope stats so I took away 99-AA from his range as that would be horribly played. I put him on 55, 77, 98, 97, 6x, TJ, AsXs, AsXo. I'm still quite new to pokerstove so I might have mis entered his range. Board: 8s 5s 9s 7d Dead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 46.671% 30.73% 15.94% 960 498.00 { 7h6h } Hand 1: 53.329% 37.39% 15.94% 1168 498.00 { 77-55, AsKs, A6s, K6s, JTs, 97s+, 86s+, 76s, AsKc, AsKd, AsKh, A6o, JTo, 97o+, 87o, 76o } So I had to call t555 for a pot that was t1695. Getting better than 3 to 1 odds. This is according to my range which is probably wrong. I'm still quite new at given ranges to players and calculating EV. What I'd like to know is should I have played any of the streets differently? Is this a semi-accurate range? And should I call (knowing that if I call I'll be down to t500)? Any help or feedback is greatly appreciated. |
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If he really is a good player, I think you have his range way too wide....is he really pushing two pair all in here with a 4 card straight and 3-flush on the board? I think it would be rather reckless to push the naked A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] unless his other card is a six...a set doesnt make a lot of sense either...why would he smooth call a draw heavy flop, then check-raise the turn when the worst card in the deck falls. I'd say a chop with a straight(maybe with a spade freeroll) or a flush are the majority of his range here...I think I'd fold.
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If he really is a good player [/ QUOTE ] It's a $2 tourney, I'm giving no one at that level any credit at all. You are chopping with a 6 or racing against a naked spade. I'm not laying this down here. As played, limping or folding is fine, the flop bet is fine, the turn bet needs to be bigger. ~400 is good. |
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Thanks for the input guys.
I actually made a mistake in my original post, the pot on the turn was t650 not t500. [ QUOTE ] If he really is a good player, I think you have his range way too wide....is he really pushing two pair all in here with a 4 card straight and 3-flush on the board? I think it would be rather reckless to push the naked A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] unless his other card is a six...a set doesnt make a lot of sense either...why would he smooth call a draw heavy flop, then check-raise the turn when the worst card in the deck falls. I'd say a chop with a straight(maybe with a spade freeroll) or a flush are the majority of his range here...I think I'd fold. [/ QUOTE ] But considering the odds I was getting isn't calling this +EV? I'd love to get some more input. |
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1290 in the pot and you have to call 555, so you need to win about 30% to make this break even in cEV - more like 35-40% to be break even in $EV.
A 6 is definitely in his range. He's the BB in a limped pot, so T6 isn't as unlikely as it might be otherwise. Something like AsTx or a badly played set are possible, as is a made flush. You have 75% equity against a set and 65% equity against AsTx, but you can't do better than split against anything else plausible. Putting all that in a range gives: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 58.565% 23.85% 34.72% 1427 2077.50 { 99-55, AsTs, A6s, As4s, K6s, Q6s, J6s, T6s, 96s, 86s, 76s, AsTc, AsTd, AsTh, A6o, K6o, Q6o, J6o, T6o, 96o, 86o, 76o, 62o+ } Hand 1: 41.435% 06.72% 34.72% 402 2077.50 { 7h6h } But I'm not sure that's an accurate picture as some hands seem a lot more likely than others. It might be best to try and estimate the probability of each sort of hand (made flush, flush draw, combo draw, set, 9 high straight, T high straight) and weight the outcomes for each. It's pretty close, and opponent dependent (as it depends on how likely he is to be doing this with each sort of hand - which might also depend somewhat on what he thinks of you). |
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First, I would fold this PF. If you do want to play suited connectors, I think a much better strategy is to get the nuts as cheaply as possible. If the turn was 4h you would still win a huge pot without betting 150 on the flop.
Betting 150 on the flop likely means 2-3 callers, a big pot, and not really that strong of a hand. I think a CRAI from a good player at these limits is very likely a made hand. Imagine you were him -- your thought process wouldn't go "This donk just bet 2/3 pot and 3/4 pot --- I am sure he will fold to a big raise cause donks love to fold when they have any piece of the flop or draw" |
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