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Old 08-01-2007, 12:08 AM
StregaChess StregaChess is offline
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Default $27 Stars: 99 Weakness? OOP

Villain seems to be a sold (8.2%) against a donk I might shove back in this spot Did I ask for trouble by coming in light out of position? Not my favorite hand in this spot, what's a more reliable line?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t150 (5 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

Hero (t3000)
CO (t2315)
Button (t2490)
SB (t1570)
BB (t4125)

Preflop: Hero is in UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="red">Hero raises to t375</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="red">Button raises to t750</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>, <font color="gray">Hero folds</font>
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Old 08-01-2007, 12:09 AM
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Default Re: $27 Stars: 99 Weakness? OOP

I think i either raise or fold preflop as u did, make it 450. Good fold to reraise, i dont think pushing over the top of his reraise on button is the best play.
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Old 08-01-2007, 03:01 AM
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Default Re: $27 Stars: 99 Weakness? OOP

It's not a happy spot, but you need to pay t400 to get into a pot that's almost certainly going to be over 5k if you flop a set. I think you have to call the re-raise preflop here and be done unless you flop a set.

Limping isn't bad with 20 BB. There's also not many other stacks at the table that will be able to raise light. 99 is a great hand to have in a limp-fest, so don't feel bad about starting one. A bunch of folds and a push from the SB is about the only nasty situation that can arise, and that only costs you the limp rather than 1/4 of your stack.
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Old 08-01-2007, 05:43 AM
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Default Re: $27 Stars: 99 Weakness? OOP

I like it, I would play it like this.
And I strongly disagree with whoever advise to limp here, 99 is a strong hand and 5 handed is almost a monster, you can't play it for set value only, you definitely need to raise it.
I like a 400 raise simply for a pure estetic effect...it is like th 0.99 at the supermarket, donks see 400 and they associate it to 450, they see 375 and they calll becaus ethey think is only 300...
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Old 08-01-2007, 05:48 AM
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Default Re: $27 Stars: 99 Weakness? OOP

id raise like you did and fold to a solid
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Old 08-01-2007, 01:39 PM
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Default Re: $27 Stars: 99 Weakness? OOP

Hero is calling t375 to have a shot at Button's t2500 plus the t600 from Hero's initial raise and the blinds, so 8.25:1 implied. That's plenty close enough to continue with the hand just based on set value, nevermind the times when it turns out he's a retard and lets you see a showdown unimproved and he has ATs. The raise/fold line isn't making any sense to me.

As for limping, I can understand if people don't want to limp here based on the argument that 99 is "hard" to play postflop in a multiway pot. I think that's not giving enough credit to the times it ends up just you and the blinds, and a small t200 flop bet on a board of QsTs6d takes it down. That's the same t375 invested by raising and it's much easier to fold to aggression because you have a lot more information about your hand's value with three cards on the board and one or two more opponents' actions.
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Old 08-01-2007, 01:43 PM
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Default Re: $27 Stars: 99 Weakness? OOP

I like a limp if it's a very loose table, otherwise I'd raise to 400 and apparently we should call his smallish raise.
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Old 08-01-2007, 04:07 PM
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Default Re: $27 Stars: 99 Weakness? OOP

The table was not loose, villain VPIP was under 9%, SB was very solid too, gold star, over 10K games played, +7% ROI at this buy-in. Figure if SB pushes I've got to call.
Against a random player I'm calling the raise of 375, against what I believed to be a solid player I folded but in either case as Slim said it's not a happy spot.

Regarding the 400 vs 375, I typically go 2.5BB once blinds reach 100 for pot control reasons. To change up now would be a bit of a tell no?
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Old 08-01-2007, 04:28 PM
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Regarding the 400 vs 375, I typically go 2.5BB once blinds reach 100 for pot control reasons. To change up now would be a bit of a tell no?

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you are way overestimating your opponents' attention!
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