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Old 07-31-2007, 05:53 PM
blackice781 blackice781 is offline
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Default We\'re not beating much, but can we really fold? (50NL 6m)

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP ($100.10)
CO ($48.25)
Button ($27.25)
<font color="#C00000">SB :#A500AF(villain)/ ($99.05)</font>
BB ($278)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($127.30)</font>

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB :#A500AF(villain)/ calls $1.75, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($6.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
villain checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">villain raises to $15</font>, Hero calls $10.

Turn: ($36.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">villain bets $22.5</font>, Hero calls $22.50.

River: ($81.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">villain bets $59.55 (All-In)</font>, Hero ???

Final Pot: $200.60

villain is 25.5/16.5/2 over 157 hands.
do we have equity to call?
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Old 07-31-2007, 05:55 PM
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Default Re: We\'re not beating much, but can we really fold? (50NL 6m)

sweet electric jesus, 3-bet the flop. your equity is huge (KQ, draws, one pair. hardly ever KK, once in a while QQ). just get it in.
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Old 07-31-2007, 05:57 PM
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Default Re: We\'re not beating much, but can we really fold? (50NL 6m)

Either 3-bet the flop or shove the river. You can't play a set this passively or you wind up in [censored] spots (i.e. this one) on the river.
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Old 07-31-2007, 05:58 PM
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Default Re: We\'re not beating much, but can we really fold? (50NL 6m)

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sweet electric jesus, 3-bet the flop. your equity is huge (KQ, draws, one pair. hardly ever KK, once in a while QQ). just get it in.

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Old 07-31-2007, 06:00 PM
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Default Re: We\'re not beating much, but can we really fold? (50NL 6m)

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sweet electric jesus, 3-bet the flop. your equity is huge (KQ, draws, one pair. hardly ever KK, once in a while QQ). just get it in.

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i like to TRAP!!!...myself.
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Old 07-31-2007, 06:01 PM
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Default Re: We\'re not beating much, but can we really fold? (50NL 6m)

I can't believe you didn't push harder on the flop when you are that deep. KK or QQ almost always reraises you PF especially with those stats. I shove the turn to be honest..
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Old 07-31-2007, 06:01 PM
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Default Re: We\'re not beating much, but can we really fold? (50NL 6m)

ignoring my blatantly sexy move on the flop, what's our line on the river as played?
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Old 07-31-2007, 06:03 PM
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Default Re: We\'re not beating much, but can we really fold? (50NL 6m)

First thoughts were to shove flop, then I saw stack sizes. I think villain 3-bets AA/KK/QQ here pre-flop, but might just call with AK/KQ/AQ. JT gets there on the turn, which sucks. Actually, it seems pretty easy for villain to have a big draw on the flop, so shoving might be best (probably some FE, and we probably have the best hand here). The river doesn't seem to change anything, so if you're calling on the turn because you think you're good, you should be calling on the river too. If you're calling on the turn hoping the river pairs, I'm not sure you're getting the odds. I think we see two pair here often enough to call the river.
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Old 07-31-2007, 06:04 PM
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Default Re: We\'re not beating much, but can we really fold? (50NL 6m)

the reverse implied odds just gave me a heart attack
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Old 07-31-2007, 06:05 PM
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Default Re: We\'re not beating much, but can we really fold? (50NL 6m)

call and puke when he turns up JdTd
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