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Old 07-30-2007, 03:16 PM
crunchh crunchh is offline
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Default small buy in, just after buble facing big bet on flop holding trips

ok maybe this hand is of no interest but I begin
couldn t manage to convert hand so will discribe it then post it

middle position folded to me hold AA blind 300/600 ante 75

stack 13.8k
raise 1500 (too low maybe but my standard raise)
previously i doubled up twice but tried some steal with poor hand in position and had to rurender to all ins from big stak

every one fold except bb 21k who is very loose he called for half his stak with 46o an all in of aa and cracked it and doubled up calling jto against aq

flop Ac4s5s
blind check i bet 1000 (pot 3000), i have the board rigged and try to price in a flush draw or a pair not believing in aces

insta call (most likely call all button)I really feel he has a draw but not sure

turn 3d blind goes all in well i am a bit stuborn and wasn t prepared to let go trips but still I gave it a thought what hand could do that

maybe he has trips but would he insta call flop with possible flush draw and don t even think about reraising

he would also give a thought to a small pair
so he had either a straigh draw , a made straight or a flush draw

betting his flush is unlikely but maybe he thinks he can get me off a weak ace or a pair maybe 10% of time

he can have 67 26 25 24
there i have only 20% -25% chance to win

also 53 or 43 could warrant it maybe and i am ahead

after this though process i didn t feel too good would you???


Game #5226311374: Hold'em NL (300/600) - 2007/07/29 - 17:21:47 (UK)
Table "Head Hunter $5_5232738 - 1" Seat 10 is the button.
Seat 1: Joh170167 (10790 in chips)
Seat 2: evil (21137.50 in chips)
Seat 3: Luckky007 (13420 in chips)
Seat 4: Chadm0712 (10925 in chips)
Seat 6: _whatsup_ (7750 in chips)
Seat 8: hero(13750 in chips)
Seat 9: Joh140434 (12525 in chips)
Seat 10: Beefie (30655 in chips)
Joh170167: posts the ante 75
evil: posts the ante 75
Luckky007: posts the ante 75
Chadm0712: posts the ante 75
_whatsup_: posts the ante 75
hero posts the ante 75
Joh140434: posts the ante 75
Beefie: posts the ante 75
Joh170167: posts small blind 300
Marshalos: posts big blind 600
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to hero [Ah Ad]
Luckky007: folds
Chadm0712: folds
_whatsup_: folds
hero: raises to 1500
Joh140434: folds
Beefie: folds
Joh170167: folds
evil: calls 900
----- FLOP ----- [Ac 4s 5s]
evil: checks
hero: bets 1000
evil: calls 1000
----- TURN ----- [Ac 4s 5s][3d]
evil: bets 18562.50 and is all-in
hero: is all-in 11175
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Old 07-30-2007, 05:55 PM
BAK BAK is offline
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Default Re: small buy in, just after buble facing big bet on flop holding trips

You bet small on the flop to price in the draws. What was the plan if a spade came?

I think that the flop bet was a mistake. There was 3900 in the pot and you bet 1000, which assures a call, but also looks weak. You have really begged him to bluff at this pot, so you now have to call. Since you showed weakness and this was an obvious scare card, I think that raises the likelihood that this is a bluff or semi-bluff.

And if he hit his straight, you have outs.
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Old 07-30-2007, 08:16 PM
SayGN SayGN is offline
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Default Re: small buy in, just after buble facing big bet on flop holding trips

Call. You've made a bunch of mistakes but you're still ahead more often than not in my opinion.
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Old 07-30-2007, 09:37 PM
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Default Re: small buy in, just after buble facing big bet on flop holding trip

I'm not folding aces here. What hands are worth calling a preflop raise with that contain a deuce?
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Old 07-30-2007, 10:30 PM
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Default Re: small buy in, just after buble facing big bet on flop holding trip

This seems like a results-oriented post. I'm sorry if the guy had the straight, but there's no way in hell you can fold here.

There are far too many hands in which you're ahead, esp against an incompenent villain.
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Old 07-31-2007, 12:02 AM
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Default Re: small buy in, just after buble facing big bet on flop holding trip

no way im folding a set not trips on this board ever
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Old 08-01-2007, 09:06 AM
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Default Re: small buy in, just after buble facing big bet on flop holding trip

I wouldn't fold either, but I wouldn't be extatic about my hand. Could be the dude has A3 and though "dingdingding, i sucked out AK"
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Old 08-01-2007, 10:33 AM
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Default Re: small buy in, just after buble facing big bet on flop holding trip

Raise more pre-flop, bet more on the flop, and call the all-in.
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Old 08-01-2007, 11:45 AM
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Default Re: small buy in, just after buble facing big bet on flop holding trip

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Raise more pre-flop

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Depends if he raised 2.5xBB in previous hands .. if so, he should continue to do so, even with AA. I also like to make it 2.5xBB once blinds and antes get bigger (accomplishes the same as a 3xBB raise would and you safe some chips) .. maybe a bit less with a funny amount like 1.479 [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Everything else has already been said. Raise bigger on the flop, call the all-in and load another tourney because you got beat by a straight [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
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Old 08-01-2007, 12:22 PM
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Default Re: small buy in, just after buble facing big bet on flop holding trip

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I also like to make it 2.5xBB once blinds and antes get bigger (accomplishes the same as a 3xBB raise would and you safe some chips)

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Why do we do this? By raising just 2.5xBB we price in the blinds to call us with holdings like suited connectors and stuff. We're still 20+ BB's deep, which is deep enough to make a 3xBB raise and fold to a re-raise if we're just raising to steal. I go down to 2.5xBB raises when stacks are shallower...
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