I hate how I played this hand(middle pair OOP)

[David H]

No reads here.


Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.50/$1
10 players
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Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, 6 folds, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3SB, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises</font>, SB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3.5BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5.5BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks.

Results:
Final pot: 5.5BB

Is calling down here after he raises me on the flop and bets the turn spewy? Even as I called the turn I said out loud "What am I doing?"

Where do you drop this hand? After the turn bet? Or does anyone fold after the flop raise?

[sean c]

I fold to the flop raise.

[Sushiglutton]

On the flop u are getting 6:1 and I think that's enough to draw to ur 5 outer. Also there is some chance villain will take a FC. I think u should fold the turn without reads.

[sean c]

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On the flop u are getting 6:1 and I think that's enough to draw to ur 5 outer. Also there is some chance villain will take a FC. I think u should fold the turn without reads.

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Sushi,

We don't know that we have 5 outs or any reason to think we have the implied odds to call even if we did given the fact that we are readless.

[Aaron W.]

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On the flop u are getting 6:1 and I think that's enough to draw to ur 5 outer. Also there is some chance villain will take a FC. I think u should fold the turn without reads.

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Sushi,

We don't know that we have 5 outs or any reason to think we have the implied odds to call even if we did given the fact that we are readless.

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How many outs do you think we have?

[GLKST526]

It's a little spewy given how small the pot is. I wonder what he's open limping with UTG+1 personally. Lacking reads, I tend to err on the side of caution just until I can get a line on their style of play. If the villain starts demonstrating that they will raise a lot with draws or play fast in position against the blinds I'll be more inclined to call down with marginal holdings, but until I know how they play I'm much more willing to drop marginal hands, especially in a pot this small

[sean c]

Aaron,

I don't know but I don't think its an automatic five and even if it was it doesn't mean some unknown .50/1.00 online player is going to put in 3bb on the turn and river with a worse hand.

[tyler_cracker]

i'm ok with peeling the flop (though folding is at least fine and possibly better) but i definitely fold the turn.