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Old 07-30-2007, 09:49 AM
piebear piebear is offline
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Default NL50 overpair flop shovvvvvvvvve

No reads or stats on villain whatsoever

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

UTG ($89.15)
UTG+1 ($57.45)
MP1 ($50)
MP2 ($50)
CO ($44.60)
Button ($242.05)
Hero ($87.85)
BB ($41.90)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $2</font>, Button calls $2, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 folds, CO calls $4.50, Button calls $4.50.

Flop: ($20.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $38.1 (All-In)</font>, Button folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $68.60


I basically figure that if he is willing to put all his money in with a worse hand, can I just wait for a better spot? Also now he knows I fold. Any help appreciated.

ps I know preflop was WEAK

pps just noticed I bet half the pot in a multiway. This is horrible.
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Old 07-30-2007, 10:09 AM
geoncic geoncic is offline
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Default Re: NL50 overpair flop shovvvvvvvvve

what beats you here?

QQ, AA, 88.

Q8 or Q2 unlikely. would he have pushed preflop with AA?

The only thing I'm really afraid of here is QQ. I say call and if he has QQ or AA, then so be it.
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Old 07-30-2007, 10:11 AM
jasonfish11 jasonfish11 is offline
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Default Re: NL50 overpair flop shovvvvvvvvve

personally I raise to $8 preflop. Your flop bet really looks like a weak c-bet. If I felt this guy has a brain and notices this weak bet then I call. If I just think he is playing his cards then I am on the fence.

Should have bet $15 on the flop.
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Old 07-30-2007, 10:13 AM
WarhammerIIC WarhammerIIC is offline
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Default Re: NL50 overpair flop shovvvvvvvvve

First of all, what is up with this "better" spot stuff? I see that a lot on here - it's a cash game, the decision is either +EV or it isn't. It doesn't matter if it's not the most +EV situation you'll get into. If it's +EV, you make it. You're not playing a tournament.

Second of all, I don't think I could fold this. If he has 88, tough break. I think you'll see AQ more often.
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Old 07-30-2007, 10:13 AM
CazicT CazicT is offline
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Default Re: NL50 overpair flop shovvvvvvvvve

[ QUOTE ]
what beats you here?

QQ, AA, 88.

Q8 or Q2 unlikely. would he have pushed preflop with AA?

The only thing I'm really afraid of here is QQ. I say call and if he has QQ or AA, then so be it.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes what he said. The CO could definetly do this with AQ IMO. Must call this.
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Old 07-30-2007, 11:28 AM
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Default Re: NL50 overpair flop shovvvvvvvvve

Also depends on your 3-betting behaviour prior to that hand, I'd say...
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Old 07-30-2007, 11:33 AM
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Default Re: NL50 overpair flop shovvvvvvvvve

PF and flop, raise more. You would have pot committed yourself so folding isn't an option.
As played, call.

Also, QQ/AA could play it like this. But i still call. If he has either of those hands, its a cooler.
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Old 07-30-2007, 01:11 PM
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Default Re: NL50 overpair flop shovvvvvvvvve

I'm fine with the inital cbet on the flop, but you should be calling the shove imo.
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Old 07-30-2007, 02:30 PM
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Default Re: NL50 overpair flop shovvvvvvvvve

Gotta call this. I think he has AQ here most of the time.

BTW, great avatar.
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Old 07-30-2007, 02:52 PM
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Default Re: NL50 overpair flop shovvvvvvvvve

Wow.

Callcallcallcallcallcall.
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