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Old 07-29-2007, 06:00 AM
stetda stetda is offline
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Default Full Tilt SNG fee rakeback

Can someone please explain how SNG fees are calculated for rakeback on Full Tilt? I definitely see the value of rakeback for cash games, but am pondering if it's worth the trouble of starting a new account for SNG fees.

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Old 07-29-2007, 06:01 AM
stetda stetda is offline
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Default Re: Full Tilt SNG fee rakeback

let me add... also, not just SNG, but also tournament fees. I assume they are the same, but just in case they aren't...
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Old 07-29-2007, 08:04 AM
RakeTheRake RakeTheRake is offline
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Default Re: Full Tilt SNG fee rakeback

You get 27% rakeback on the fee.

For example if you enter a $100 +$10
then you would get 27% of the $10 back in rakeback, or $2.70

Same for Tourneys

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Old 07-30-2007, 09:20 AM
mekkas mekkas is offline
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Default Re: Full Tilt SNG fee rakeback

I heard that with rakeback we lose part of the fulltilt bonus.. anyone can explain that to me?

Im thinking to deposit at fulltilt and complete the wagering playing 12$ sngs (I think I must play like 1500) but I need to know if the bonus I lose is more or less the rakeback I will get.
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Old 07-30-2007, 09:41 AM
RakeTheRake RakeTheRake is offline
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Default Re: Full Tilt SNG fee rakeback

Indeed bonuses are deducted from rake (not rakeback) before the rakeback is calculated

But it is always better to get rakeback + bonus, rather than just rakeback….even if the bonus is deducted from your rake.
Here's a quick example of why.

Let's say you sign up and rake $1,000 in your first month.
Let's also assume you get a $300 bonus
Your net rake is $700
Let's assume for ease you are on 30% rakeback
You will get $210 (30% of $700) back
Plus you got the $300 bonus
Total comp is $510 (effectively 51% rakeback on your $1000)

Now let's assume you play the same amount without a bonus.
Bonus = 0
Net rake = $1000
Rakeback at 30% = $300
Total Comp = $300
Effective 30% rakeback on your $1000

Instantly you can see that it is better to have rakeback + bonus rather than just rakeback.

I hope that helps?

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Old 07-30-2007, 10:16 AM
mekkas mekkas is offline
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Default Re: Full Tilt SNG fee rakeback

Thanks for the explanation but I didnt get how the bonus is deducted from rake..

I will deposit 600$ and play like 1500 sngs 11+1$ (i didnt found if this number of sngs to wage the bonus is right).

So I will get 27%x1500$ (1$ fee x 1500sngs)= 405$

I would like to know how much of the fulltilt bonus I get to add to the rakeback.

It seems is profitable with rakeback but I would like to know the numbers eheh

Thanks
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Old 07-30-2007, 08:07 PM
RakeTheRake RakeTheRake is offline
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Default Re: Full Tilt SNG fee rakeback

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I will deposit 600$ and play like 1500 sngs 11+1$ (i didnt found if this number of sngs to wage the bonus is right).

So I will get 27%x1500$ (1$ fee x 1500sngs)= 405$

I would like to know how much of the fulltilt bonus I get to add to the rakeback.

It seems is profitable with rakeback but I would like to know the numbers eheh

Thanks

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OK you get 7 points for ever $1 in fee you pay , so you will earn 10500 points.

Each point is worth $0.06

So you will clear $630 in bonus (or i guess the $600 initial sign up bonus)

So you get $600
and you get 27% of the $900 ($1500-$600) or $243

Your total comp is $843 (243+600) or

56.2% rakeback (843 / 1500)

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