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Old 07-29-2007, 05:12 AM
johnbeans johnbeans is offline
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Default Marginal River spot, 200NL

No reads on villain

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

tcherv: $240.75
FundMyAudi: $274.55
jaeger51: $609.60
Hero: $217.40
johnebgouda: $245.50
pnyffe: $203.60

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
jaeger51 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8.00</font>, 2 folds, tcherv calls $7.00, FundMyAudi folds

Flop: ($18) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
tcherv checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($18) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">tcherv bets $15.00</font>, Hero calls $15.00

River: ($48) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">tcherv bets $48.00</font>, Hero ?

I thought about raising on the turn, but thought it makes my hand sort of transparent and bloats the pot. It's worth mentioning that even though I don't really have any reads on tcherv I don't think I really have to worry about getting reraised bluffed or semi-bluffed much at all. With that said what do people think of just calling on the turn, and does your decision change if I have AQ?

I'm not totally sure what to make of the river PSB. I don't think it's ever QJ, so more like a slow played set, rivered two pair, 7x9x, or a missed draw. I think AQ probably doesn't pot this river. Thoughts?

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Old 07-29-2007, 05:16 AM
Trikkur Trikkur is offline
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Default Re: Marginal River spot, 200NL

When you don't cbet and just call on the turn - you are inducing a lot of bluffs so I think you have to call. I think folding and raising are really bad and calling is marginal to a PSB, but you induced it -&gt; you call it.
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Old 07-29-2007, 06:55 AM
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Default Re: Marginal River spot, 200NL

cbet flop...and everything becomes much easier
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Old 07-29-2007, 07:04 AM
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Default Re: Marginal River spot, 200NL

I disagree with flop cbet. That kind of flop hits a lot of ranges, and it's going to get you played back at quite often. I think this hand is played fine, if you call the river. You've seriously under represented your hand.
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Old 07-29-2007, 07:06 AM
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Default Re: Marginal River spot, 200NL

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I don't think I really have to worry about getting reraised bluffed or semi-bluffed much at all

[/ QUOTE ]Fold.
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Old 07-29-2007, 07:26 AM
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Default Re: Marginal River spot, 200NL

i call river with no reads
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Old 07-29-2007, 09:00 AM
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Default Re: Marginal River spot, 200NL

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I don't think I really have to worry about getting reraised bluffed or semi-bluffed much at all

[/ QUOTE ]Fold.

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Are you saying I should fold on the turn? River? Or are you just disagreeing about my statement that most people not B-3Bing w/draws in smallish pots on the turn w/no reads for 100bb's?
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