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Old 07-29-2007, 04:35 AM
crunny crunny is offline
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Default 100nl: QJs Combo draw, 250BB Deep

I have villain at 28/17/3 over a decent sample.

I have very little experience playing deep so could really use some advice on flop and turn play.

Also whats your move on the river? If you think i should bluff, please include a bet size.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

<u>SB: $299.15</u>
BB: $64.10
UTG: $98.50
UTG+1: $81.15
MP1: $102.00
MP2: $101.05
MP3: $111.05
CO: $92.00
<u>Hero (BTN): $266.85</u>

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (9 Players)
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $1.00, 4 folds, Hero calls $1.00, SB calls $0.50, BB checks

Flop: ($4) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">UTG+1 bets $2.00</font>, Hero calls $2.00, <font color="red">SB raises to $10.00</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $8.00

Turn: ($26) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $20.00</font>, Hero calls $20.00

River: ($66) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero ???
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Old 07-29-2007, 04:47 AM
Hklm8383 Hklm8383 is offline
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Default Re: 100nl: QJs Combo draw, 250BB Deep

i think raising turn could be good to like 55.. fold to a push

fold river he is check callin
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Old 07-29-2007, 04:48 AM
jessyj07 jessyj07 is offline
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Default Re: 100nl: QJs Combo draw, 250BB Deep

I don't think you should bluff because your hand looks exactly like what it is. The only hand that you might fold by betting is A7hh.

Raising preflop is nice and I would raise the flop.
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Old 07-29-2007, 05:05 AM
billzfan86 billzfan86 is offline
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Default Re: 100nl: QJs Combo draw, 250BB Deep

3 bet the flop and if u get 4 bet ide prollyu call (depending on how much he makes it) with the plan to shove any turn card that improves ur hand (even if its just a pair or added draw outs)

if ur 3 bet gets cold called i lead 3/4 pot on any turn card and fold to raise when i miss

as played on flop i make it 60-70 and fold to shove

as played dont bluff river
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Old 07-29-2007, 09:56 AM
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Default Re: 100nl: QJs Combo draw, 250BB Deep

i would have folded flop and turn. i do not think you have good enough direct odds or implied odds. and you probably have some reverse implied odds.
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Old 07-29-2007, 10:00 AM
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Default Re: 100nl: QJs Combo draw, 250BB Deep

also i would have raised preflop.
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Old 07-29-2007, 09:19 PM
Thrahl Thrahl is offline
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Default Re: 100nl: QJs Combo draw, 250BB Deep

Flop is debeatable but turn is a def fold. Dont bluff this river either.
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Old 07-29-2007, 09:30 PM
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Default Re: 100nl: QJs Combo draw, 250BB Deep

your folding on turn with 12 outs to a pretty much nut hand and 2 overcards? I think that would be horrible to a bet that isnt even pot sized.

As for the actual hand, ive tried an approach of just calling and foldign when i miss, and an approach of trying to get it in for fold equity and a really strong draw, but so far its been less then stellar.
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Old 07-29-2007, 09:59 PM
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Default Re: 100nl: QJs Combo draw, 250BB Deep

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i would have folded flop and turn. i do not think you have good enough direct odds or implied odds. and you probably have some reverse implied odds.

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wtf
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Old 07-29-2007, 10:01 PM
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Default Re: 100nl: QJs Combo draw, 250BB Deep

bottomset, what line do you like here?
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