Tough Spot .15/.30

LastLife · #1 07-28-2007, 11:19 PM

Villain is 27/23/3.6 over about 300 hands

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.30 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($81.05)
MP ($21.85)
Hero ($85.75)
Button ($30.50)
SB ($118.95)
BB ($73.25)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $1.05, 1 fold, Hero raises to $3.6, 3 folds, UTG calls $2.55.

Flop: ($7.65) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($7.65) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $5.7, UTG raises to $19.5, Hero ?

apple11 · #2 07-28-2007, 11:21 PM

I would have bet the flop as u need to charge draws if he has one. But as played I think this is a fold on the turn just to many hands that beat u and i think he just calls with AJ here

LastLife · #3 07-28-2007, 11:26 PM

With his aggression, you think dont he could be doing this with a wide range?

apple11 · #4 07-28-2007, 11:28 PM

Usually LAG's don't mess around to much in a 3 bet pot. But honestly, what do you see him doing this with that you beat? His line looks like a set to me to be honest but since you didn't bet flop it's much more difficult. Why do you not bet the flop just out of curiosity?

LastLife · #5 07-28-2007, 11:35 PM

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Usually LAG's don't mess around to much in a 3 bet pot. But honestly, what do you see him doing this with that you beat? His line looks like a set to me to be honest but since you didn't bet flop it's much more difficult. Why do you not bet the flop just out of curiosity?

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Because he raising and then calling a reraise from UTG. JJ, 99, 88 are all in his range. If I bet the flop and he calls, I have no idea where I am, but if I check and then see what he will do on the turn(which was check again) I would have a better idea of where I was. The reason I say checking is better than betting is because if I am beat, if he has a set here, then I will lose much more money then if i check and see what he does on the turn. If he bets out on the turn I can just call and hope to showdown cheaply. Once he checks 2 time there is almost no doubt in my mind that I have the best of it here. With straight and flush draws possible, there is no way he checks a set twice.

Rounder101 · #6 07-29-2007, 02:50 AM

Dont check that flop!! Dont give free cards with this board, you gotta get an idea by betting.
Well if you bet and he calls, you can just slow down.
I dont think you are getting more info by checking and seeing what he does on the turn, what if an ace or king hits, what if a 7 hits, you will have now a MUCH tougher hand

shoxbb6 · #7 07-29-2007, 03:09 AM

Definitely call, your hand is extremely underrepped in this spot and an aggro villain can definitely do this as a semibluff/pure bluff given your flop check.