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Old 07-28-2007, 02:08 AM
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Default Top pair in SB

Live $300 MTT. Blinds 200/400/50. You have 9500 and second limper has you covered. Two early position limpers, you complete in SB with T8o (push preflop?) and BB checks. Flop comes 864,r. You check (should you lead out?) and it is checked to second limper who bets 1200. What do you do?
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Old 07-28-2007, 03:17 AM
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shoving preflop would be awful, and i lead the flop for about 1k and fold to raises.
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Old 07-30-2007, 06:08 PM
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Exactly what he said. Of course it gets real gross if he smooth calls you....
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Old 07-30-2007, 06:18 PM
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OK, but once I check, what do I do when the second limper bets 1200?
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Old 07-30-2007, 06:28 PM
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Call this, check/fold turn on blank.
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Old 07-30-2007, 06:39 PM
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The reason I didn't lead out and fold is that the lead out looks like I have TPNK in the blinds and want to see where I am, so I figure I will be bluffed off of it. But maybe the lead out play works live.
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Old 07-30-2007, 06:46 PM
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The reason I didn't lead out and fold is that the lead out looks like I have TPNK in the blinds and want to see where I am, so I figure I will be bluffed off of it. But maybe the lead out play works live.

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huh?

or you could have flopped a straight, two piar, etc....
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Old 07-30-2007, 07:57 PM
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Live $300 MTT. Blinds 200/400/50. You have 9500 and second limper has you covered. Two early position limpers, you complete in SB with T8o (push preflop?) and BB checks. Flop comes 864,r. You check (should you lead out?) and it is checked to second limper who bets 1200. What do you do?

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1. I almost never shove 23bb here in live. But it's a good thinking and 99% you don't get calls if this is the first time you do that. ( People would say you are crazy and fold. But sometimes live tight limps AA pf.) pf call is ok.

2. I normally bet the flop. Need to have good read on villain and also you must have good showdowns before. Weak hands may fold 60% of the times unless villain is good at bluffing.

As played, either call the flop and lead out 2000 on the turn or c/r 2700-2900 on the flop. All depend on your read and his read about you.
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Old 07-30-2007, 09:55 PM
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I flat called, 1st limper pushed, and took the pot. I wondered if 2nd limper was making a play in position and 1st limper was also making a play, but I didn't want to look him up. Didn't think I played this well.
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