Live $200NL KK, Putting villain on a hand...

[Landlord79]

Sam's Town Gambling Hall - Tunica, MS

UTG is a loose-donkey maniac who appears intelligent but has no idea of how to play cards.

MP1 just paid me off a few hands before when I had Queens full vs his nut flush. He said that he thought I had a str8 on an A-2-9-Q-2 board…????

MP2 is your avg Joe casino poka player.

MP3 has made a few 3 bets in the past and appears to be fairly decent though his play isn’t always clean i.e. he makes plenty of mistakes but errs on the aggressive side. He has plenty of loose ends to tie up in his game.

Button is a white trash donkey w/ deep pockets who hasn’t played in months and isn’t afraid to tie into big hands and hasn’t laid down a draw yet.

Hero has ~$380 and all villains have him covered

UTG raises to $7
Hero calls $7 w/ K-K
MP1 calls $7
MP2 calls $7
MP3 raises to $20
Button calls $20
3 folds
UTG calls $13
Hero raises to $100
2 folds
MP3 takes about 45 seconds and eventually calls, though he doesn' look happy about it.
2 folds

What range do you put the villain in here?

<font color="blue"> I didn't pull the trigger initially because you see where the $20 3 bet gets you and I wanted to conceal the strength of my hand until I really knew where I was at OOP </font>

[BJJIII]

I think the villian plays QQ like this. Live donkeys get all there money in when they have AA. I dont think many live players would just smooth call with AA in villians spot.

I guess he could have KK as well, but not very likely.


Oh and reraise more PF. Make it ~$120

[Landlord79]

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Oh and reraise more PF. Make it ~$120

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TomAto - Tomato
Any reason for this incredibly technical adjustment?

[BJJIII]

to win more of his monies of course.

[SellingtheDrama]

I love the flat call UTG+1 the first time around. Especially with players who will 3 bet it at the table.

100 is about right....anything in the range of a pot-sized raise (in this case that's about this number) is my standard.

He's probably got a big pair that isn't aces or is just unable to get rid of a big ace, most likely suited. Lots of times I've seen people style-similar to MP3 just not able to get away from AQs or an AK here.

And button has any two cards, even if he calls here.

[LearningCurve]

I'll begin by saying I've never played live before....

I like the pf play a lot. It seems really solid to me. You were in early position and clearly have a good handle on the other players at the table.

As for villain's holdings and the fact that he called your 4-bet, I would think his most likely holding would be AK, JJ - AA (although surely AA would reraise?). Since you indicated he's 3-bet pf before though and his time and demeanor seemed to indicate displeasure, I guess his range might be a bit wider even -- AQ, perhaps even a tad lower if it was suited (down to ATs or so) as well as TT/99.

Seem reasonable?

[QTip]

I think it does seem reasonable LearningCurve.

[CazicT]

I don't think you can completely discount AA, unless you were sure he wasn't acting.

AK is quite likely as well as QQ or JJ.

AQ, TT or unlikely but possible.

Sucks to be OOP on the flop, especially if an ace hits.

If an ace hits, i'd probably bet/fold. If one doesn't i'd bet and probably play for stacks if I had to.

You'll probably want to observe the opponent as he sees the flop, when he nods as it comes out you can do a Jen Harman and throw your kings away.

[D.L.M.]

I disagree, i just go ahead and reraise preflop, Its better to lock up that money, or even better get heads up against another player with a big stack. Many people dont under stand that if you have the great starting hand and you let 2 or more people into the pot then you still only (unless some unusual hand comes up) have the chance to take 1 stack, so now you are pretty much letting anyone else come in and add another player in there to bust you but you still have the same reward on only one players stack.
Im not sure how well i explained that. Another point is that the pot will be bigger on the flop making it even easier for one of these two to stack you.

Now you obviously have a solid read on the table. So you can kinda play it slow and maybe take a smaller pot. But id rather just get it heads up and make things much less complicated and probably still more ev.

Now if the table is squeeze happy (which i dont think happens much at all) then you can start calling here with good hands like kk to pretty much do what you just did.

Any ways from the action i really put him on TT+ and ajs+. Maybe some other [censored]. So right here im getting it in on most all flops.

[QTip]

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I disagree, i just go ahead and reraise preflop, Its better to lock up that money, or even better get heads up against another player with a big stack. Many people dont under stand that if you have the great starting hand and you let 2 or more people into the pot then you still only (unless some unusual hand comes up) have the chance to take 1 stack, so now you are pretty much letting anyone else come in and add another player in there to bust you but you still have the same reward on only one players stack.
Im not sure how well i explained that. Another point is that the pot will be bigger on the flop making it even easier for one of these two to stack you.

Now you obviously have a solid read on the table. So you can kinda play it slow and maybe take a smaller pot. But id rather just get it heads up and make things much less complicated and probably still more ev.

Now if the table is squeeze happy (which i dont think happens much at all) then you can start calling here with good hands like kk to pretty much do what you just did.

Any ways from the action i really put him on TT+ and ajs+. Maybe some other [censored]. So right here im getting it in on most all flops.

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I like all this.