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Old 07-25-2007, 11:03 PM
Superfluous Man Superfluous Man is offline
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Default 100r: Weird spot with big overpair

Here's a hand from tonight's 'stars 100r that I probably screwed up somehow. But, I've asked some people and there have been divergent opinions as to what I should do on the flop, so, I may as well post it here.

UTG is ComeOnPhish. He has good results, but a lot of people think he plays badly (I forget exactly how, I'm thinking overly aggro with garbage or something, or that he calls pushes with draws too light, or something...people always seem to be mad about him sucking out on them).

SB is stealthmunk. He's aggro, obviously a good, thinking player. I'm not really sure I've seen him cold-call out of the SB ever, so I'm more than a little worried he's trying to induce a limp-rr squeeze from ComeOnPhish. Or at least trap ComeOnPhish into spewing off his stack somehow (and, for that matter, me too...I've spewed off stacks to stealthmunk with less than marginal holdings before).

My image is fairly aggro, I kind of got out of line earlier, when, shortly after the rebuy period ended, I 4-bet shoved 55 pf from the BB and held vs. AKs. Maybe my image is a little looser than average. I've opened a few pots recently and folded to 3-bets, for what it's worth.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (9 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

UTG+1 (t8745)
MP1 (t6634)
MP2 (t14175)
Hero (t30145)
CO (t13050)
Button (t9796)
SB (t27525)
BB (t21760)
UTG (t22155)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls t600, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2400</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls t2100, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls t1800.

Flop: (t7300) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB bets t5000, UTG calls t5000, Hero ????
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Old 07-25-2007, 11:05 PM
stealthmunk stealthmunk is offline
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Default Re: 100r: Weird spot with big overpair

i'm probably super exploitable here but w/ e.
it is a semi interesting hand i'm not gonna comment cuz i'm in it.


ill just say comeonphish is the reason asian players are stereotyped the way they are and i wouldn't mind if he got hit by a bus or something of that sort.
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Old 07-25-2007, 11:12 PM
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Default Re: 100r: Weird spot with big overpair

haha stealth yes u are

your range is so strong here its unhealthy
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Old 07-25-2007, 11:14 PM
stealthmunk stealthmunk is offline
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Default Re: 100r: Weird spot with big overpair

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haha stealth yes u are

your range is so strong here its unhealthy

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doesn't matter at all imo though because i'm going after idiot UTG not pechorin.

but w/e read my location i don't care.
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Old 07-25-2007, 11:15 PM
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Default Re: 100r: Weird spot with big overpair

how can you do anything besides raise here??
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Old 07-25-2007, 11:20 PM
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Default Re: 100r: Weird spot with big overpair

here's where i'm confused. Now I agree that COP is a mondo-fish, at least I think so and that SM's range is really really strong. However, what I don't understand is why you wouldn't check. Leo can bet, you can check-shove and COP can still be like I have a flush draw and 2 overs gogogo. The lead completely kills your maximization of OR's money.
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Old 07-25-2007, 11:21 PM
Cornell Fiji Cornell Fiji is offline
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Default Re: 100r: Weird spot with big overpair

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how can you do anything besides raise here??

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you can fold.
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Old 07-25-2007, 11:22 PM
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Default Re: 100r: Weird spot with big overpair

mastr,

COP won't call bet and a raise cold here w/ like 98hh.
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Old 07-25-2007, 11:23 PM
Superfluous Man Superfluous Man is offline
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Default Re: 100r: Weird spot with big overpair

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how can you do anything besides raise here??

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Ansky put it pretty nicely when he said stealthmunk's range here is "so strong it's unhealthy." Strong enough not to raise though?
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Old 07-25-2007, 11:32 PM
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Default Re: 100r: Weird spot with big overpair

I'd be shocked if stealthmunk doesn't have AA/KK here. Plus COP might have flopped a set (definitely not that often, but probably about as often as stealth has less than KK here).

I think this is a highly disciplined fold, and I never make it, but I've never been in a spot quite like this.
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