2 weired hands

[recallme]

1. Vill is reg tag.

Cryptologic
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$5
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $537
UTG+1: $810.90
CO: $256.90
Button: $615.40
SB: $494.90
BB: $42.40

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $18</font>, 3 folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($41, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $30</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $85</font>, SB calls.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($211, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $150</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises all-in $391.9</font>.

Am i calling here?

2. Unknown Villain

Cryptologic
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$5
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $434.53
CO: $517.25
Hero: $602.65
SB: $488
BB: $905.65

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $15</font>, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $55</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($117, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $75</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($267, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($267, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $205</font>

Shove/call/fold?

[DLizzle]

i probably call both, the first one definitely, the second i'd fold with some kind of read, like a bet size or click tell. but raise more on the flop in hand one, and bet more on the flop in hand 2.

[recallme]

I edited first hand now converted

[recallme]

Thoughts?

[Jamougha]

H1 I don't like the flop raise. If you're going to raise the flop and hammer the turn then I don't like folding much.

H2, meh

[recallme]

What means meh?

[schwza]

1 - i would check behind on the turn. as played i'd groan and call.

2 - fold. people don't try to chopblock on these kinds of boards as often as you might think.

[Praetor]

#1 call flop and check turn

#2 call preflop

[recallme]

2nd should i really play TT for set value?

[cockandbull]

hand 2 i dont think praetor means call for set value, i figure he means call and look to play a smallish pot as a better player rather than pump it. that could mean second/third pair etc

hand two i like the raise and agree with jam if your making it.