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Old 07-25-2007, 07:22 PM
townierailer townierailer is offline
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Default I think it\'s correct to call, but enlighten me ssnl

No reads on villain. At the time of the hand he was at 35/26/3.5, over 23 hands. Afterwards he ran at 40/30 or so and proved to be a donktard.

Turn check was for pot control and because I had the gut feeling that he was floating me. Maybe I shouldn't listen to those gut feelings and bet out?

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Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $205.20
BB: $203.00
UTG: $32.55
Hero (MP): $201.70
CO: $214.95
BTN: $207.20

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7.00</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $7.00, 2 folds

Flop: ($17) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $14.00</font>, BTN calls $14.00

Turn: ($45) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $25.00</font>, Hero calls $25.00

River: ($95) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $50.00</font>, Hero calls $50.00

Pot Size: $195.00 ($3 Rake)
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Old 07-25-2007, 07:28 PM
nanonoko nanonoko is offline
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Default Re: I think it\'s correct to call, but enlighten me ssnl

Played good
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Old 07-25-2007, 07:45 PM
dd323 dd323 is offline
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Default Re: I think it\'s correct to call, but enlighten me ssnl

I don't like checking the turn for pot control in this case. I would rather check/call the river on a blank. Seriously, the guy seems loose, even though you only had 23 hands on him. Are you worried about an over pair or set or what? The board is pretty drawy, and you don't have a big pair, so any T-Q is scary to you, along with almost any diamond, and lots of low cards make straights. If he is willing to hard float you and raise the turn with a draw then more power to him.

Meanwhile, I think there is more value to be gotten from weaker 9s, and diamond draws, and maybe a hand like 57 or 88.

In position, I see a very good argument for checking behind the turn (but most of the time I would bet). OOP I think checking this turn is not the best play unless you have a good read that villian will always bet when checked to, and whether or not he is capable of running a big bluff here.

As played you need to call on the river, but i wouldn't be to happy about it.
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Old 07-25-2007, 07:51 PM
townierailer townierailer is offline
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Default Re: I think it\'s correct to call, but enlighten me ssnl

TY for the response, that makes perfect sense. Hopefully one less leak to worry about
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Old 07-25-2007, 08:00 PM
jonyy6788 jonyy6788 is offline
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Default Re: I think it\'s correct to call, but enlighten me ssnl

I'd definitely bet/fold this turn OOP to protect and for value. We likely have best hand.

Is it ur std. to open A9o in MP?
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Old 07-25-2007, 08:07 PM
townierailer townierailer is offline
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Default Re: I think it\'s correct to call, but enlighten me ssnl

No, I was running tight (no cards) at the table for a while and figured I'd raise it up
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Old 07-25-2007, 08:09 PM
ThaHero ThaHero is offline
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Default Re: I think it\'s correct to call, but enlighten me ssnl

If you're planning to call the turn then why not bet?
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Old 07-26-2007, 04:15 AM
CadillacZack CadillacZack is offline
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Default Re: I think it\'s correct to call, but enlighten me ssnl

Definitely correct to call on river, leading turn and check call river is what i would have done because u are possibly gaining value from a worse hand and paying off a better one. You dont want to discourage a worse hand from betting in that spot.
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Old 07-26-2007, 05:00 AM
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Default Re: I think it\'s correct to call, but enlighten me ssnl

Against a passive calling station type player I like a b/f on the turn but against an aggro player I'd rather c/c turn. The reason for this is that an aggressive player will probably raise the flop with a flush draw or a better hand (reads on how he plays draw or TP against the pf raiser?)
but most importantly he will bet the turn when checked to with 100% of his range but will call with less.
Also an aggressive player might decide to raise this turn with air as a delayed bluff and make you fold the best hand which would really suck. Finally taking a passive line on the turn will probably induce villain to take another stab at the pot on the river. Letting an aggressive player bet into you with air is very very ev+ because you're letting him make a very big mistake with a marginal holding.

However this is very player dependant. To summarize if villain is aggressive and will try to push you off your hand everytime you show weakness by checking after c-betting the flop it's very profitable to let him bluff.
However against an unkown or a passive player I would always b/f this turn.
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