UTG calls, hero is UTG+1, what changes ?

[malicor]

UTG calls, hero is UTG+1

now does that cause ANY different behavior to:

UTG folds, hero is UTG+1 ?

seems basically to be the same to me ?

[Tzen]

In a pretty loose game you might have some more reasons to limp some hands, since 2 limpers encourage more people to limp, but no, there is no real differnce.

[Niediam]

I don't play differently unless UTG's stats are very abnormal. For example, if UTG was super tight over a sufficiant sample size I might limp or fold AJo instead of raise.

Limping hands that play best multiway like 22 and JTs are probably better after a limper but to be honest I don't know if there is any time I have specifically played a hand because of that.

[HoneyBadger]

I will limp 22-55 instead of folding it on certain tables. I will also raise easier if UTG is a bad, loose player.

[KitCloudkicker]

in your position not much.

[HoneyBadger]

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[KitCloudkicker]

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well, given that we're UTG+1, an iso raise doesnt make a lot of sense to me. so basically anything i'd open with a raise with i'm still raising, anything i'd usually limp i'm still limping, and anything i usually fold from EP i'm still folding.

[ProfessorBen]

My limping range opens up a little in this spot. 55, J9s, QJo, A7s are examples of hands I add to my limping range.

Edit: These are for the games I play, not a rigid recommendation. If you're playing games like 4/8 live you should likely be limping these anyways.

[ProfessorBen]

Also, if he's bad and will make mistakes postflop I will tend to loosen up a bit with hands that have isolation/showdown value, but this is a tiny adjustment. ie. I may be willing to raise 66 as my cutoff instead of 77.