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Old 07-25-2007, 12:27 AM
Nick D Nick D is offline
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Default Villian Donkbets River - Hero\'s Made a Weak Flush

UTG1 is a loose-passive...seems to join almost every pot...
tried to bluff me out of a pot with jack high to my fullhouse. Basically a fish.

Hero has 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] on the button.
UTG1 calls, UTG2 calls, 3 folds, CO checks, Hero raises, SB calls, BB Folds, UTG1and2 Call, CO Folds

Flop(9 SB): K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
SB bets, UTG1 calls, UTG2 folds, Hero calls

Turn(6 BB): 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
SB bets, UTG1 calls, Hero raises, SB folds, UTG1 calls

River(11 BB): Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG1 bets, Hero calls

Any and all criticism on every street is welcome. Thanks.
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Old 07-25-2007, 12:30 AM
Zeldark Zeldark is offline
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Default Re: Villian Donkbets River - Hero\'s Made a Weak Flush

This is an easy call. Depending on just how blufftard he is, a raise may be in order. I'm assuming you raised your full house and he called so that you know he had jack high?
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Old 07-25-2007, 12:30 AM
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Default Re: Villian Donkbets River - Hero\'s Made a Weak Flush

you can almost raise the flop but calling is fine too.

why on earth would you raise the turn?

i'm raising this river.
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Old 07-25-2007, 12:33 AM
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Default Re: Villian Donkbets River - Hero\'s Made a Weak Flush

Reason for rainsg three limpers with 65s preflop?
Reason for raising the turn? You still only got a draw, picking up three extra outs doesn't change things much. You are paying too much for your 12 (at best) outs by giving yourself 3.5:1 to draw.
With a tricky irrational opponent like this I would raise/call river. That's a better use of a big bet than raising the turn.
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Old 07-25-2007, 12:35 AM
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Default Re: Villian Donkbets River - Hero\'s Made a Weak Flush

oh yea i didn't see preflop, ew at that
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Old 07-25-2007, 12:39 AM
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Default Re: Villian Donkbets River - Hero\'s Made a Weak Flush

Raised the turn for what i thought was value. I had 12 outs to what I figured would be a winning hand against only 2 other players. Now that I think about it, my equity with those amt of outs would only be about 26%, so probably a mistake.

Raised preflop to tie people to the hand as well as to possibly get a free card on the flop..the table was pretty passive at this point.

Like I said, any criticism at all on any street besides just the river is welcome, so thanks, and keep it coming.

Edit: I would never (come to think of it, don't think I have ever) PFR with this hand normally. I did it because of the reasons specified above. Are those worthy enough if I think the table respects me? Or is 56 just way too weak?
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Old 07-25-2007, 12:41 AM
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Default Re: Villian Donkbets River - Hero\'s Made a Weak Flush

i don't like the preflop raise.

i really hate the turn raise. you think you're going to get them both to fold? cuz you don't have the equity to raise for value and you have no showdown value.

and raise/call the river. your weird turn line has disguised your hand, so he could be donking with KQ or something.
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Old 07-25-2007, 12:41 AM
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Default Re: Villian Donkbets River - Hero\'s Made a Weak Flush

don't raise PF or turn.

I'd prolly raise flop & take free card, but just calling is ok if ur concerned they'll donk turn anyway if u raise flop.
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Old 07-25-2007, 12:43 AM
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Default Re: Villian Donkbets River - Hero\'s Made a Weak Flush

The PF is hard core yo, I think a call will suffice...

I'm raising the flop.

Given UTG1 seems to suck (LPPs dont try to bluff anyone out of anything) I'm raising the river. When you call his re-raise I would expect a two pair very often.

What whith the turn? raise flop and take the freecard?
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Old 07-25-2007, 12:45 AM
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Default Re: Villian Donkbets River - Hero\'s Made a Weak Flush

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Raised the turn for what i thought was value. I had 12 outs to what I figured would be a winning hand against only 2 other players. Now that I think about it, my equity with those amt of outs would only be about 26%, so definitely a mistake.

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Raising the flop is a much better option. You have positive equity edge there against 2 villains with 2 cards to come, plus you may very well get a free card. Given that you raised preflop (meh as it is), your raise will be more believable and free card much more likely.
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