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Old 07-24-2007, 05:09 PM
cd1680 cd1680 is offline
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Default what to do w/99 on undercard board?

Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $101.70
CO: $159.95
Button: $258.95
SB: $138.25
BB: $100

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $3.5</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $11</font>, BB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($23, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $21</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($65, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($65, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $63</font>, Hero ???????

opponent likes to play alot of hands. his stats are 51/27/1.1 over 1350 hands. though he raises and calls alot preflop, he does not seem to 3 bet preflop very often though.
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Old 07-24-2007, 05:25 PM
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Default Re: what to do w/99 on undercard board?

The river bet narrows it down to air or AA/KK IMO. The 8 is a very safe card to check, and he could check with a big overpair if he/she thinks it will enduce more action on the river. The bet is also rather large, which he could be doing to make it look like a bluff. Since he/she does not 3 bet PF very often, I think this is a big OP and you should fold. However, you have to believe that he/she is capable of making this play. It would have been better to bet the turn and fold to a c/r.
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Old 07-25-2007, 05:39 PM
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Default Re: what to do w/99 on undercard board?

good point luckbox666. thanks. i folded this hand.
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Old 07-25-2007, 06:51 PM
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Default Re: what to do w/99 on undercard board?

I would snapcall this river. I don't see villain betting full pot with AA/KK, too many scare cards and too many draws to check turn.
You're hand doesn't look like much except small pocket pair or A high.
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Old 07-25-2007, 07:02 PM
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Default Re: what to do w/99 on undercard board?

I would have bet the turn, it really would have given you better information. The turn check could also, have made him think you had AK,AQ, so I can understand suited's line.

I can understand calling (and why), but due to lack of information as played I'd lean a lot more towards folding, he could have JJ,qq (besides AA, KK) and put you on a lower pair the way it was played.
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Old 07-25-2007, 07:07 PM
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Default Re: what to do w/99 on undercard board?

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opponent likes to play alot of hands. his stats are 51/27/1.1 over 1350 hands. though he raises and calls alot preflop, he does not seem to 3 bet preflop very often though.


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do most 57/27s check this turn w/an over pair?
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Old 07-25-2007, 07:09 PM
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Default Re: what to do w/99 on undercard board?

maybe w/KK+, not w/TT-QQ
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Old 07-25-2007, 07:30 PM
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fold i think
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Old 07-25-2007, 10:13 PM
HumbertHumbert HumbertHumbert is offline
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Default Re: what to do w/99 on undercard board?

easy fold. i also dont mind the turn check as given his range here the river should be easy to play.

your description of villian is of a very loose passive player. when he 3bets your utg raise it screams ak/jj+
i imagine villain like this:
"oh shizzle kings! raise it up! no way he has a 5 let me bet big and make money! crap he called...maybe he has a 5? better check. he checked too! kings are good, please have qq and call my big bet."

that river bet is very big and rarely a bluff i think.
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Old 07-25-2007, 10:21 PM
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Default Re: what to do w/99 on undercard board?

I would call this. I can't see a 57/27 donk checking the turn with an overpair. Of course he could have gone for a c/r on the turn but most donks aren't that creative?
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