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Old 07-24-2007, 01:30 PM
skibbel skibbel is offline
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Default 88 vs Donk OOP, cbet gets minraised

Villian 60/30/4 ~50 hands

CO ($142.30)
Button ($72.75)
Hero ($123.50)
BB ($74.40)
UTG ($97)
MP ($112.10)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $1, Button calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO folds, Button calls $5.

Flop: ($14) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $16</font>, Hero ???
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Old 07-24-2007, 01:33 PM
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Default Re: 88 vs Donk OOP, cbet gets minraised

Seems like some sort of draw, I would either 3-bet here or call and lead non-scary turn,
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Old 07-24-2007, 01:38 PM
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Default Re: 88 vs Donk OOP, cbet gets minraised

You will see some players that min raise as a way to attack what they feel is a c-bet.

If this guy is a top pair donk, he is not going to fold his 9, so a fold in not a bad idea.

Folding is always just a small mistake.
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Old 07-24-2007, 01:51 PM
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Default Re: 88 vs Donk OOP, cbet gets minraised

60/30 with only 72BBs to start the hand. I push.
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Old 07-24-2007, 01:56 PM
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Default Re: 88 vs Donk OOP, cbet gets minraised

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Folding is always just a small mistake.

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What? Hell no
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Old 07-24-2007, 02:02 PM
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Default Re: 88 vs Donk OOP, cbet gets minraised

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Folding is always just a small mistake.

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What? Hell no

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It may be a nitty approach, but nothing says you have to play any hand.

In a donkament you are forced to capitalize on all opportunities b/c the blinds are going up.

IMO, one nice this about cash games, is that you can fold at anytime. There will always be another hand.
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Old 07-24-2007, 02:04 PM
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Default Re: 88 vs Donk OOP, cbet gets minraised

IMO, not worth it. Find a better spot.
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Old 07-24-2007, 02:09 PM
oyvindgee oyvindgee is offline
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Default Re: 88 vs Donk OOP, cbet gets minraised

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Folding is always just a small mistake.

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What? Hell no

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It may be a nitty approach, but nothing says you have to play any hand.

In a donkament you are forced to capitalize on all opportunities b/c the blinds are going up.

IMO, one nice this about cash games, is that you can fold at anytime. There will always be another hand.

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The fact that you can continue making big mistakes indefinitely without busting doesn't make them right.

This is not directed especially at the hand in question.
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Old 07-24-2007, 02:12 PM
Poker_is_Hard Poker_is_Hard is offline
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Default Re: 88 vs Donk OOP, cbet gets minraised

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60/30 with only 72BBs to start the hand. I push.

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This is crazy... so hands you beat fold and hands you are behind call.
Seems like a good way to get our stack in with the worse of it.
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Old 07-24-2007, 02:16 PM
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Default Re: 88 vs Donk OOP, cbet gets minraised

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Folding is always just a small mistake.

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What? Hell no

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It may be a nitty approach, but nothing says you have to play any hand.

In a donkament you are forced to capitalize on all opportunities b/c the blinds are going up.

IMO, one nice this about cash games, is that you can fold at anytime. There will always be another hand.

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The fact that you can continue making big mistakes indefinitely without busting doesn't make them right.

This is not directed especially at the hand in question.

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I simply stated that there is nothing wrong with folding when you are in a marginal spot and not sure what to do. Is it always the best play.. not at all. However, if you really don't know what to do and you haven't put a bunch of $ in the middle, folding is not the end of the world.

Folding will never have a negative effect on your BR. Yes, if this or if that was true and you folding, then maybe you missed the chance to win some $, but it is always just that "IF".

That is all I was trying to say.
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