I just saw someone flat call on the river with the nuts...

[JoeyJoJo Shabadu]

Just saw this in a 4/180... 35 people left... MP2 has a decent stack. How does someone make this guy's river play? Call? I just don't get what he thought beat him? I'm not in the hand... it's just one of the wierdest things I've seen.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t300 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 (t12570)
CO (t4185)
Hero (t2175)
SB (t9647)
BB (t6965)
UTG (t10045)
UTG+1 (t17654)
MP1 (t14756)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls t300, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (t775) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets t600</font>, BB calls t600.

Turn: (t1975) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, MP2 checks.

River: (t1975) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t600</font>, MP2 calls t600.

Final Pot: t3175

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has Jh 9c (one pair, nines).
MP2 has Js Qc (straight, king high).
Outcome: MP2 wins t3175. </font>

[illini43]

Suprisingly, this isn't the first (or second or thi...) time I've seen this.

[ger664]

I saw 2 villians check/check boats on the river each with 85o. This is how we make $$$. They will call our raise with this junk and then not extract any value when they do manage to get the nuts.

[durron597]

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I saw 2 villians check/check boats on the river each with 85o. This is how we make $$$. They will call our raise with this junk and then not extract any value when they do manage to get the nuts.

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collusion is how we make money??????

[Mauberly]

durron,
ger664 does say anything about collusion. He is saying, Yes, people make flat calls with the nuts. In his scenario the 85's make one mistake by being in the hand after a raise and then compound the mistake by not extracting maximum value on the one time amount they actual hit their hands.

Is this really the first time you saw this happen, Joey? Perhaps, the person simply mis-read the board and saw a flush out there. You do know that mistakes happen right? Once I looked at my hand no less than three times and saw 8-9 thinking I had two pair after the flop, I called a huge bet only to embarrasingly turn my one pair of 9's with a six kicker. I felt like a an ess but mistakes will happen and lesons learned.

[FortunaMaximus]

Hardly collusion when you think about it. Especially if you multitable...

MP2 either could read opponent's soul and didn't bother trying to get value out of a post-oak.

Either that or he value-jammed a marginal hand on another table intending to call and reversed the table actions.

It happens. I wouldn't worry about it too much.

In a 4/180... Yeah, some players might need a hand ranking thingmajig taped to their monitor.

[ger664]

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I saw 2 villians check/check boats on the river each with 85o. This is how we make $$$. They will call our raise with this junk and then not extract any value when they do manage to get the nuts.

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collusion is how we make money??????

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I doubt if it was. Happened on the 2nd hand of a MTT but point taken.

[ThePershore]

Lol wp MP2.

[flavio321]

hard to be colluding at the 4/180
they might be misclicking or multi-tabling. but i do see this at 27/45's i was sitting at a table with 3 players from sydney.

[yNnOs]

Maybe someone should've used their four-color deck.