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Old 07-23-2007, 07:33 AM
Shortcorner Shortcorner is offline
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Default 6.50 Turbo Bubble fold?

CO has been pushing many hands, but shortn stack has been incredibley weak, push or fold?


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CO (t1580)
Hero (t1450)
SB (t9685)
BB (t785)

Preflop: Hero is in Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="red">CO raises to t1580 (All-in
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Old 07-23-2007, 11:37 AM
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Default Re: 6.50 Turbo Bubble fold?

Looks like a fold, ran some numbers and CO has to be pushing 60% of hands for this to be a call.
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Old 07-23-2007, 11:51 AM
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Default Re: 6.50 Turbo Bubble fold?

Thank You Sir!

I think so too, he seemed sensible enough, i'd think he'd be more like 66+,A8s+,K9s+,Q9s+ A9o+,K9o+ pushing into a big stack with the short stack in play.
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Old 07-23-2007, 11:52 AM
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Default Re: 6.50 Turbo Bubble fold?

I call here, but I'm ultra loose donkey. Given read on CO, his range is big enough for the call (huge range). You need some chips at this ponit if you want to challenge the CL.

I also hope that the short stack calls.
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Old 07-23-2007, 11:55 AM
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Default Re: 6.50 Turbo Bubble fold?

Given how far behind big stack both you and CO are, seems like ur primary consideration here has to be ensuring you make money. Since short stack has been weak, folding here better than taking any risk with TT.
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Old 07-23-2007, 11:57 AM
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Default Re: 6.50 Turbo Bubble fold?

This is read dependent. On the bubble with a shorty, CO is going to have to be real wide for this to be a call. Are there antes? What does it mean he's been pushing a lot? Has he been pushing from UTG a lot?

Anyway, I doubt he's wide enough to call here, but TT is very difficult to lay down.
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Old 07-23-2007, 11:58 AM
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Default Re: 6.50 Turbo Bubble fold?

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You need some chips at this ponit if you want to challenge the CL.

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What will 'challenging' for the CL get us?
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Old 07-23-2007, 11:59 AM
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Default Re: 6.50 Turbo Bubble fold?

Winning the tournament?
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Old 07-23-2007, 12:04 PM
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Default Re: 6.50 Turbo Bubble fold?

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Winning the tournament?

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What will calling a losing get us?
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Old 07-23-2007, 12:05 PM
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Default Re: 6.50 Turbo Bubble fold?

Winning the tournament is always nice, but here you need to be concerned with not losing your buy in. You are a substantial dog to win this particular tournament, and trying to win in this or similar situations instead of making sure that you do not get bubbled can turn you from a net STT winner to a net STT loser in a big hurry.
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