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KK flops a set against donk but idiotic play makes river really tough
villain is 88/3/2.3 with river aggro of 6 over 140 hands.
I played it like a jerk because I thought I'd be maximizing value. Everytime I Cbetted, he would fold so I thought I'd let him catch up a bit and let him bluff. I wasn't really scared of the flush early on but is this reasoning wrong? His range of hands is so wide that I don't have to be *that* scared of the flush right? Anyways, I should have raised more on the turn, but since that's done, what do I do about this river? If he really have the flush, does he over bet like this? I beat a bluff, some paired king, 2 pair, another set.. but this is an extreme over bet. What is the best play here? Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter) SB: $31.00 BB: $66.65 UTG: $58.25 Hero (MP): $97.65 CO: $49.45 BTN: $52.75 Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players) UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.00</font>, 3 folds, BB calls $1.50 Flop: ($4.25) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players) BB checks, Hero checks Turn: ($4.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">BB bets $4.25</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $10.00</font>, BB calls $5.75 River: ($24.25) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">BB bets all-in for $54.65</font>, Hero ??? |
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Re: KK flops a set against donk but idiotic play makes river really tough
I kick myself for not betting flop and raising more on the turn.
Then I call. |
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Re: KK flops a set against donk but idiotic play makes river really tough
why are you not betting the flop? I call cuz I don't think he had a flush draw.
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Re: KK flops a set against donk but idiotic play makes river really to
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why are you not betting the flop? I call cuz I don't think he had a flush draw. [/ QUOTE ] Your avatar is not pleasurable. Do you not think that he has a flush draw because he bet out OOP on the turn? |
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Re: KK flops a set against donk but idiotic play makes river really to
well things would be easier if you bet the flop.. I'd have raised it to $12 on the turn too.. most people with flush draws don't pot the turn.. lot of it comes down to timing in situations like these.
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Re: KK flops a set against donk but idiotic play makes river really to
I hate that check on the flop, your trying to get his whole stack in, you have 4 in so far and you have forced yourself to try get 129 in 2 streets, how do you plan on doing this?
Raise the turn a lot more, for reasons outlined above And now look what happens you got his stack but you could easily be behind. River overbets nearly always mean the nuts or near enough to it, I hate this spot. I think he has a flush a lot but he could also have sets as well I suppose. I call but don't like it. |
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Re: KK flops a set against donk but idiotic play makes river really to
Isn't this one of those situation where you just check the flop, call the turn, and fold the river because you kept the pot small so you could fold, but if the heart pairs the board, you stack him?
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Re: KK flops a set against donk but idiotic play makes river really to
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Isn't this one of those situation where you just check the flop, call the turn, and fold the river because you kept the pot small so you could fold, but if the heart pairs the board, you stack him? [/ QUOTE ] uhm... NO You want to check the flop with the nuts.. smooth call the turn with the nuts.. then fold the river without ever having been agressive with top set?? |
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Re: KK flops a set against donk but idiotic play makes river really to
The reason he's folding to all of your c-bets is that he is playing 88% of his hands pf. By continuing your usual pattern of c-betting your opp will pay of if the flop catches him at all. That being said, I think that the river is an easy call since the likelihood of opp holding a smaller set or two pair is so great.
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Re: KK flops a set against donk but idiotic play makes river really to
slowplaying semi strong hands like sets has a habit of biting u in the arse imo. full houses/str8s/flushes i dont mind so much but very rarely is top set the nuts when all 5 cards are out. u have too bet the flop imo here. as cooker said u want all your money in the middle here and its going to be difficult in just 2 moves. if he folds to your cbet never mind it s better to win a small pot than lose a monster. tbh im probs folding this river, u usually see the flush here more often than any other hand...
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