Another (less dramatic) KK Hand

[TheRedDragon]

Dealt to Neutrality [Kh Ks]
maverickace: calls $50
bytung: folds
Neutrality: raises $50 to $100
Jag1878: folds
frostey: folds
malliappi: folds
Gjem8: raises $50 to $150
sounlucky: calls $100
maverickace: calls $100
Neutrality: raises $50 to $200
Betting is capped
Gjem8: calls $50
sounlucky: calls $50
maverickace: calls $50
*** FLOP *** [9h 6h Td]
Gjem8: bets $50
sounlucky: calls $50
maverickace: calls $50
Neutrality: raises $50 to $100
Gjem8: raises $50 to $150
sounlucky: folds
maverickace: calls $100
Neutrality: raises $50 to $200
Betting is capped
Gjem8: calls $50
maverickace: calls $50
*** TURN *** [9h 6h Td] [9d]
Gjem8: checks
maverickace: checks
Neutrality: bets $100
Gjem8: raises $100 to $200
maverickace: calls $200
Neutrality: folds

[MaxRaises]

What was your reasoning behind folding the turn?

[cmcxchris]

The fold on the turn is awful.

If you're going to fold to a raise here, you should just check-call the turn.

There's 19.5 BB in the pot when it's one bet to you to call on the turn. You should call there.

[daryn]

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If you're going to fold to a raise here, you should just check-call the turn.

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he's in position, so he'd be letting a free card slide off, which is even worse.

[cmcxchris]

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he's in position, so he'd be letting a free card slide off, which is even worse.


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Do you really think that? Why exactly?

Are you worried there's a chance you might be ahead and that you might give him a free card that might let him come from behind and take the whole pot when he might have folded to a bet?

I claim folding is worse than that. Do you see why?

[icfishies]

I don't see how you can fold here either (thoughI don't know either of those guys in the hand with you.) Maverickace probably has QJ and unless GJem is tight enough to obviously have AA or 10-10, the pot is just too big not to look him up and hope that he's either overplaying something or else making one of those strange moves that some of the Stars 1-2 regulars love to try.

[daryn]

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he's in position, so he'd be letting a free card slide off, which is even worse.


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Do you really think that? Why exactly?

Are you worried there's a chance you might be ahead and that you might give him a free card that might let him come from behind and take the whole pot when he might have folded to a bet?

I claim folding is worse than that. Do you see why?

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it doesn't matter if he would have folded or called a bet, checking and giving a free card that loses you the pot is a disaster.

[baronzeus]

im ok with this fold too

[DeathDonkey]

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im ok with this fold too

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I concur. I feel like this is always AA or better. Any thought to calling the flop and raising the turn rather than capping the flop?

-DeathDonkey

[StrictlyStrategy]

Folding this turn for one bet is mathematically incorrect. If he turns over T9 you should still call.