200NL - A8s hits trips on the river in 3-bet pot

[Fat Nicky]

villain is 23/16/4 over a couple hundred hands. early in my session, so no 3-bet history. i got my stack by winning an all in pot w/AQ against a guy with 1/2 a stack. he had his stack when i sat down.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$1/$2 Blinds
6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $208.70
BB: $200.00
UTG: $213.60
MP: $55.00
CO: $382.75
Hero (BTN): $313.25

Preflop: Hero is dealt 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $7.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24.00</font>, 2 folds, CO calls $17.00

Flop: ($51) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($51) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $40.00</font>, Hero calls $40.00

River: ($131) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $80.00</font>, Hero ????

[TripSearching]

I think a call is in order here, especially seeing as how you played the hand on the flop. I do think a flop bet may have been more effective in this instance in defining your hand though.I definitely do not think you should raise this river.

[Fat Nicky]

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I do think a flop bet may have been more effective in this instance in defining your hand though.

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i bet this flop often. i checked in this instance because of my vague read...didn't want to play a huge pot here.

[ikestoys]

as played you have to call, you could easily be inducing a bluff here

also, why are you 3bet pre here with pos?

[Fat Nicky]

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as played you have to call, you could easily be inducing a bluff here

also, why are you 3bet pre here with pos?

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the 3-bet pre is def not standard. but i will 3-bet a wide range from the button at times against certain types of players.

[MadScientist]

Call that river, don't raise, KQ does not call.
Bet flop, wtf.

[ikestoys]

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as played you have to call, you could easily be inducing a bluff here

also, why are you 3bet pre here with pos?

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the 3-bet pre is def not standard. but i will 3-bet a wide range from the button at times against certain types of players.

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i suggest you reevaluate your 3betting pre strat... sure it puts you in pos in a bloated pot, but you should be able to call here pre with a wide variety of hands and make villain's life hell postflop. The 3bet pre minimizes your maneuvering ability postflop and lessens the extent that you can use your pos as a weapon

[HumbertHumbert]

3betting here preflop is fine. villain is often stealing blinds here with a 16pfr and a 3bet is good often, if not you take a flop in position.

as played i think you gotta consider folding. i know i probably couldn't (a leak i think) but what do you think a tag calls your first 3bet with pf? that board hits a ton of his range aq, jj, kk, aj in that order. your best hope is that he's betting a10 or qq though i really doubt he calls a 3bet w/ a10 and bets the river with qq.

[_TKO_]

Villain is probably not value-betting a worse hand, but could be bluffing given your line. I would call, expecting to be good more than 30% of the time.

I like the preflop raise, but I like it more vs a villain with more history.

[HumbertHumbert]

hmmm...i think 30% is a bit optimistic that he's bluffing. but couple the benefit of seeing his hand and gaining insight on his pf and post flop play, call seems fine.