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How do you play the flop and turn against a good opponent?
Opponent is 2+2, capable of mixing up play. I had just reraised him in a hand where I had top and bottom sets on a drawy board and he folded.
Note stack sizes and type of flop. POKERSTARS $1/$2 6-max Seat 1: iggymcfly ($477 in chips) Seat 2: bcareful420 ($61.10 in chips) Seat 3: anomaly ($224.80 in chips) Seat 4: Trolleur ($422.20 in chips) Seat 5: MADGREEK614 ($192 in chips) iggymcfly: posts small blind $1 bcareful420: posts big blind $2 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Trolleur [A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] anomaly: folds Trolleur: raises $4 to $6 MADGREEK614: folds iggymcfly: calls $5 bcareful420: calls $4 *** FLOP *** [A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] iggymcfly: checks bcareful420: checks Trolleur: bets $10 iggymcfly: raises $30 to $40 bcareful420: folds Trolleur: ?????? In the hand, I just called the $30. *** TURN *** [4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] iggymcfly: checks Trolleur: ????? |
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Re: How do you play the flop and turn against a good opponent?
On the turn, I'd bet 60 and fold to a check raise. I wouldn't mind checking and deciding on the river, but I think betting is better for meta-game and blah blah being deepstacked in position and stuff.
I think just calling the flop raise is good. |
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Re: How do you play the flop and turn against a good opponent?
I reraise the flop.
As played check behind. |
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Re: How do you play the flop and turn against a good opponent?
ribbo, loll
i hate to do it but you have to reraiseraise flop probably pot it again wraps and draws too scary and i pot the turn, trying to check river then if i check raised i fold |
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Re: How do you play the flop and turn against a good opponent?
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I reraise the flop. As played check behind. [/ QUOTE ] I agree with this. Betting the turn isn't good because you tend only to get called when you're beat. There's an argument that it's better not to give free cards where he could complete a broadway straight, but he probably won't bet that on the river anyway with the flush on board, and if he has a set and the river pairs the board, you stand to win a very big pot. |
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Re: How do you play the flop and turn against a good opponent?
I can't fathom not 3-betting the flop. As played I check behind the turn, but I haven't played with iggy so a bet may be better.
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Re: How do you play the flop and turn against a good opponent?
yeah not 3betting this flop is really really dumb. I'm going to be 3betting here with alot of semi-bluff hands (any decent draw) and I'm for sure 3betting aces. You're basically trying to trap a small small percentage of his range (TT) at the risk of giving the entire rest of his range a free card that could kill you.
Not three betting here is super bad. Don't be fancy. |
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Re: How do you play the flop and turn against a good opponent?
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[/ QUOTE ] edit opps thought this thread was new didnt mean to bump it for week ago. oh and I reraise flop. Since yo udidnt I'd bet fold the turn. |
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Re: How do you play the flop and turn against a good opponent?
It's kinda funny that I didn't come across this hand until now and then only in reference to you fighting with Ribbo. Honestly though, I think this is a good tricky line against an aggressive player. You're weak lead on the flop totally tricked me as I decided you had to have a weak draw and made a C/R whereas I could have easily folded to a pot-sized bet.
Also, if a blank comes off on the turn, I'll be firing again with almost my entire range and you could get it in way better against a draw in that spot. The fact that you have position makes it a lot easier for you to tell if I missed the turn too as I'm not going to bet any draws that I missed when you're repping a draw so strongly. Occasionally, you'll lose a little when I flop middle set or something, but in general, I think this is a very good line. |
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