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Old 07-22-2007, 05:47 AM
rapsu rapsu is offline
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Default KQ facing 3-bet push

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1000 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 (t16473)
CO (t26527)
Button (t27213)
SB (t46946)
BB (t11884)
UTG (t12565)
UTG+1 (t33449)
Hero (t22332)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2800</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t11884</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t6200


Call or fold? This guy seems tight.
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Old 07-22-2007, 07:33 AM
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Default Re: KQ facing 3-bet push

14784:9084
1.6:1

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 48.044% 46.24% 01.80% 287412582 11211201.50 { KdQh }
Hand 1: 51.956% 50.15% 01.80% 311731367 11211201.50 { 22+, A2s+, K8s+, Q9s+, JTs, T9s, A2o+, K9o+, QTo+, JTo, T9o }

vilain M = 5.7
if opponent was any good i would say this was a reasonable range.

pot odds say call
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Old 07-22-2007, 08:08 AM
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Default Re: KQ facing 3-bet push

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{ 22+, A2s+, K8s+, Q9s+, JTs, T9s, A2o+, K9o+, QTo+, JTo, T9o }

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for me the range for a tight player is too wide - even with this low M.
he hasn't open the pot, but facing a raise - so for a tight player i would assume something like:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 62.397% 57.73% 04.66% 1198175304 96766770.00 { 77+, ATs+, KJs+, QJs, AJo+, KQo }
Hand 1: 37.603% 32.94% 04.66% 683603604 96766770.00 { KQo }

which is with 1:1,66 -EV, so i'd fold this
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Old 07-22-2007, 08:10 AM
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Default Re: KQ facing 3-bet push

Gotta Call. I even think the range above is looser than what I would see usually for a reraise all-in (possibly for a push). You gotta call 9K to win 14.5K or so. Odds say call. Also, even if you lose, you are still in it and not that far off the pack.
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Old 07-22-2007, 08:57 AM
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Default Re: KQ facing 3-bet push

good fold
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Old 07-22-2007, 09:01 AM
hamnegger hamnegger is offline
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Default Re: KQ facing 3-bet push

kq is only 35% against top 10% of hands . this is definitely -ev call
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Old 07-22-2007, 10:18 AM
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Default Re: KQ facing 3-bet push

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equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 62.397% 57.73% 04.66% 1198175304 96766770.00 { 77+, ATs+, KJs+, QJs, AJo+, KQo }
Hand 1: 37.603% 32.94% 04.66% 683603604 96766770.00 { KQo }

which makes it a =EV call with no antes because your investing 9084 to win a pot which will be 11884x2+500 meaning you have to win 9084/24268 = 37.4%. Thus it's a +EV call with antes

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Old 07-22-2007, 10:28 AM
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Default Re: KQ facing 3-bet push

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14784:9084
1.6:1

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 48.044% 46.24% 01.80% 287412582 11211201.50 { KdQh }
Hand 1: 51.956% 50.15% 01.80% 311731367 11211201.50 { 22+, A2s+, K8s+, Q9s+, JTs, T9s, A2o+, K9o+, QTo+, JTo, T9o }

vilain M = 5.7
if opponent was any good i would say this was a reasonable range.

pot odds say call

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That's way too wide for a standard tight playing shoving over an MP1 raise.
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Old 07-22-2007, 10:47 AM
Mozzarelli Mozzarelli is offline
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Default Re: KQ facing 3-bet push

I think this is an east fold....you are raising from mp so the bb can not think you do not have some type of hand...My guess he has some type of pocket pair probably middle pair which you would be in a race or he could have ak or aq I think you need at least 2 to 1 for a race situation...easy fold
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Old 07-22-2007, 10:53 AM
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I think you need at least 2 to 1 for a race situation...easy fold

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WTF?
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