Interesting Bubble Spot

[Jaysick88]

Full Tilt Poker Game #3017332085: $15,000 Guarantee (22098233), Table 24 - 300/600 Ante 75 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:39:32 ET - 2007/07/21
Seat 1: reds1010 (28,621)
Seat 2: Lord Admiral (16,718)
Seat 3: Quitti (10,313)
Seat 4: BeaumontLivi (5,702)
Seat 5: shadypac (11,565)
Seat 6: wabopokerita (8,364)
Seat 7: ladyluck23207 (26,703)
Seat 8: Jaysick88 (8,454)
Seat 9: Wiscomurray (42,592)
reds1010 antes 75
Lord Admiral antes 75
Quitti antes 75
BeaumontLivi antes 75
shadypac antes 75
wabopokerita antes 75
ladyluck23207 antes 75
Jaysick88 antes 75
Wiscomurray antes 75
Jaysick88 posts the small blind of 300
Wiscomurray posts the big blind of 600
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Jaysick88 [Kc Tc]
reds1010 has 15 seconds left to act
reds1010 folds
Lord Admiral folds
Quitti folds
BeaumontLivi folds
shadypac folds
wabopokerita folds
ladyluck23207 folds
Jaysick88 calls 300
Wiscomurray raises to 42,517, and is all in

This guy is the table chip leader and 2nd overall in chips there are less than 50 people left and 45 place. I'm not playing just to squeak into the money. Is this a call or a fold. He has been 3 betting everyone. I thought i was a somewhat interesting altho relatively simple hand. What do u all think?
Also note that his shove was INSTANT

[swede554]

If he's pushing ATC, it's a call. KTs has a 61% equity over a random hand. Is that really the case though?

I don't like calling w/ KT in spots such as these. I would either raise/call or just open push (which I'm fairly sure is +EV and unexploitable given your stacksize).

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

8,390,289,600 games 0.032 secs 262,196,550,000 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 61.789% 60.59% 01.20% 5083430220 100808750.00 { KTs }
Hand 1: 38.211% 37.01% 01.20% 3105241880 100808750.00 { random }

[registrar]

If you limp there, you have to be prepared to call a shove IMO. Otherwise, it's just in the hope that an aggro BS is going to let you see a flop on the bubble and that's just spew.

[Coz]

First off I am pushing this alot of the time from SB especially into this type of player because he is calling with a huge range of hands. However, I would call as you played it, he is pushing any pp, A2+ as well as almost any K or Q and connectors with suited and unsuited as well as complete junk hands. I doubt you will get any nicer chances to double up with an M of 8.

[Cornell Fiji]

Open shove.

[rapsu]

isnt his stack little too big for open shove? I mean he almost has 14bb left. Wouldnt you consider normal raise here?

[moneyinbag]

I do not like to limp here and any raise you make commits you to the hand. So just open shove.

[ThePershore]

I don't get why you didn't open push?

[Jaysick88]

I thought the open shove was a little bit too big as a poster previously mentioned however I was looking to get the money into the middle if I could preflop. I thought my limp would look relatively weak to the big stack. In the end, I called rather quickly and he showed me the monster also known as 10 5 offsuit. The 5 on the turn ended my tourney but I like the way I played the hand, especially because If I would have open shoved the money would not have gone in with me in such a good spot. I think the argument for open shoving is also relatively strong as the blinds were going up in around two minutes which i probably should have mentioned before.

[linuxrocks]

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I thought the open shove was a little bit too big as a poster previously mentioned however I was looking to get the money into the middle if I could preflop. I thought my limp would look relatively weak to the big stack. In the end, I called rather quickly and he showed me the monster also known as 10 5 offsuit. The 5 on the turn ended my tourney but I like the way I played the hand, especially because If I would have open shoved the money would not have gone in with me in such a good spot. I think the argument for open shoving is also relatively strong as the blinds were going up in around two minutes which i probably should have mentioned before.

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1. Open shove is not too big. Your M is less than 10, if I read the blinds and antes correctly.
2. Calling and open shoving are different. With shoving, there is a good chance that he is folding a hand like T5o. In other words, the fold equity adds good amount to your total EV.

Calling is totally out of question. You cannot call with a 60% favorite against a random hand. If it's like a pair, that might sense, because you are trying to trap him. I would still push though.