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Old 07-21-2007, 04:41 PM
Yazoo Yazoo is offline
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Default NL 50 JJ preflop action

Titan No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25/$0.50BB (Titan HH Converter by Kreatief)

Button ($24.18)
SB ($44.25)
BB ($67.88) (Hero)
CO ($110.27)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to 1.0</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to 4.0</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to 15.0</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to 46.0</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises All-In $24.18</font>

Villian 40/16. Im playing very agrassive on this table, there are a lot of raises and 3 bets.
Fold or push after button raises 15$ ?
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Old 07-21-2007, 04:53 PM
Gentry3 Gentry3 is offline
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Default Re: NL 50 JJ preflop action

How about just calling his min-raise OOP and seeing a flop. Re-evaluate from there. Is that a good option? Input please.
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Old 07-21-2007, 04:55 PM
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Default Re: NL 50 JJ preflop action

Why re raise him?? You're overplaying J-J, as the most probable hand here is A-A or K-K. You'll have to call his re-raise though, 24$ to call in a 66$ pot.
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Old 07-21-2007, 05:08 PM
Prodigy54321 Prodigy54321 is offline
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Default Re: NL 50 JJ preflop action

guys, villain only has $24

I'm probably playing it the same against an unknown with half a stack and those stats...if I have a good # of hands on him and haven't seen him minraise preflop, I'd lay it down after his 4bet..if a decent portion of his PFRs are minraises I'm definitely going in...and obviously if I have a note (which I do on many opponents because it's quite popular) that he minraises monsters (and he doesn't usually minraise), I am laying down....but otherwise...he's a random jackass often enough to make it right to go in with him here IMO...it's probably marginal...but hey, at least you'll get a note out of the deal

I just want to note something that I always stressed when I was a STT player...

when you put people on probable tight ranges...you must realize that if your read is accurate that he is only making a play very tight...the range you gave him can't get any tighter anyway...but if your read is not accurate...there is plenty of space in a looser range for him to go...

that pushes me in marginal situations like this...I think we show a profit here.
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Old 07-21-2007, 05:13 PM
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Default Re: NL 50 JJ preflop action

definitly get it all in here and live with it
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Old 07-21-2007, 05:24 PM
Nick C Nick C is offline
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Default Re: NL 50 JJ preflop action

Given the history you've described at this 4-handed table, I think the push is fine.
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Old 07-21-2007, 11:27 PM
Kasane Kasane is offline
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Default Re: NL 50 JJ preflop action

push, villain has only half stack and it sounds like your table is a lot wider than AA, KK for villain. Actually, you know it is, so it's fine. What I mean by the former is that from your description, villain's range is easily enough for you to push here and if results were that you were dominated... them's the breaks. It's +EV, if not wildly so.
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Old 07-21-2007, 11:31 PM
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Default Re: NL 50 JJ preflop action

Oh I like this, considering there is a lot of 3 betting etc then your 3 bet may look like an obvious steal so think pushing is good after his 4 bet
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Old 07-21-2007, 11:57 PM
wulfpacker21 wulfpacker21 is offline
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Default Re: NL 50 JJ preflop action

the only hand thats callin your A.I. is a hand that got you beat maybe AK or AQ.. i would just fold after the raise to 15
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Old 07-22-2007, 12:08 AM
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Default Re: NL 50 JJ preflop action

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the only hand thats callin your A.I. is a hand that got you beat maybe AK or AQ.. i would just fold after the raise to 15

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I agree..OPs read says nothing about 4 betting..Villain ONLY 4 bet to $15 despite only having $25..I do not view thi view as capable of a LIGHT 4 bet...

When you say you are "playing very aggressive" what are your stats??? How often have you 3 bet villain OOP like this before??? How many hands are villains stats over??? These answers may change my my opinion maybe???

misread the qoute ALL of villains hands will call our AI villain only has about $9 left behind..Agree with the folding to the $15 raise..
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