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Old 07-21-2007, 12:16 AM
Kyle Flynn Kyle Flynn is offline
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Default Weak or good fold?

30+3 PS. field of about 550. New to the table, about 5 hands in. Two hands prior (hand 3 at this table) I got tripled up with AA>JJ>77 *phewy*

Onto the hand. No reads, no familiar faces.


Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t50/t100
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t7040
UTG+1: t5701
MP1: t2839
MP2: t1765
CO: t1716
Button: t1622
SB: t3255
Hero: t4380

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to t300</font>, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 raises to t1400</font>, 4 folds, Hero folds, UTG+1 folds.
Uncalled bets: t1100 returned to MP1.

Results:
Final pot: t750


Comments??? Standard??? Weak?
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Old 07-21-2007, 12:43 AM
wulfpacker21 wulfpacker21 is offline
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Default Re: Weak or good fold?

tough your either pushing here or folding... i prob. fold
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Old 07-21-2007, 01:43 AM
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Default Re: Weak or good fold?

weak i think id shove
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Old 07-21-2007, 01:46 AM
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Default Re: Weak or good fold?

I could swing either way, there is reasoning for both plays. You are folding because a guy who could end your tournament is behind you. Or you push because you want to isolate MP1. I'd say if you get it heads up with MP1 you are probably flipping against AK AQ. That early with your stack, you can wait for a better oppurtunity when you are more clearly the favorite.
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Old 07-21-2007, 01:58 AM
MJBuddy MJBuddy is offline
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Default Re: Weak or good fold?

Fold. A very loose 3-betting range of AK, AQ, 99+ vs JJ


equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 49.816% 48.85% 00.96% 316194324 6243024.00 { 99+, AQs+, AQo+ }
Hand 1: 50.184% 49.22% 00.96% 318570540 6243024.00 { JJ }

AND YOU ALSO have an EP raiser with no reads whose hand you have no idea about.
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Old 07-21-2007, 02:20 AM
Cornell Fiji Cornell Fiji is offline
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Default Re: Weak or good fold?

[ QUOTE ]
Fold. A very loose 3-betting range of AK, AQ, 99+ vs JJ


equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 49.816% 48.85% 00.96% 316194324 6243024.00 { 99+, AQs+, AQo+ }
Hand 1: 50.184% 49.22% 00.96% 318570540 6243024.00 { JJ }

AND YOU ALSO have an EP raiser with no reads whose hand you have no idea about.

[/ QUOTE ]

This range is probably too loose and the EP raiser is calling whenever he dominates you (probably 1/3 of the time)

This is a fold.

QQ is a lot closer...
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Old 07-21-2007, 02:50 AM
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Default Re: Weak or good fold?

easy fold
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Old 07-21-2007, 03:21 AM
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Default Re: Weak or good fold?

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easy fold

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Old 07-21-2007, 04:33 AM
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Looks good to me...
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Old 07-21-2007, 04:57 AM
yNnOs yNnOs is offline
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Default Re: Weak or good fold?


It can't be weak, if his reads are just as good as yours. Without reads its "straightforward" play. villain is committing himself, and screaming it. Not sure of the skill level in these, but I don't think AA or KK are raising so much, giving you only QQ to worry about. I still think you made the right move, as theres plenty of time to outplay. Fold.
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