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Old 07-20-2007, 10:06 PM
halperin halperin is offline
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Default KK, do i bet this turn for value or check for pot control

40/24/3 over 120 hands

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($107.95)
Button ($50.60)
SB ($95)
BB ($73.20)
UTG ($40.75)
MP ($187.20)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $3.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $13.5</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP calls $10.

Flop: ($28.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $18</font>, MP calls $18.

Turn: ($64.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero...





not quite sure when i want to fire again on turn for value or check for pot control with just over pair or tptk, specially in a 3bet pot. not sure what id ever get value from on turn.
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Old 07-20-2007, 10:25 PM
Fletcher19 Fletcher19 is offline
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Default Re: KK, do i bet this turn for value or check for pot control

bah, pot control is for little sissy girls

bet like ~$50 and call a shove obv. i bet this turn for protection as much as anything
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Old 07-20-2007, 10:37 PM
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Default Re: KK, do i bet this turn for value or check for pot control

turn is a standard bet - no way am I ever checking for "pot control".
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Old 07-20-2007, 10:42 PM
Nielsio Nielsio is offline
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Default Re: KK, do i bet this turn for value or check for pot control

Keep betting until you have no more chips behind.
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Old 07-20-2007, 11:07 PM
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Default Re: KK, do i bet this turn for value or check for pot control

why would you want to exercise pot control with a huge hand?
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Old 07-20-2007, 11:10 PM
FishSticks FishSticks is offline
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Default Re: KK, do i bet this turn for value or check for pot control

There are flops and opponents where a check behind on the turn with kings is good after this preflop/flop action. This isn't one of those spot. He's going to show up here with all sorts of stuff you beat like QJs/KJs/AJ/99/T9s/AT/KQ plenty enough to make this turn a value bet.
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Old 07-20-2007, 11:49 PM
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Default Re: KK, do i bet this turn for value or check for pot control

Im taking a different line than most here. Vs this type of villan, he probably doesn't fold to many CB, but usually folds to a turn bet. I usually check behind on the turn and let them bet the river. This line vs certain villans has proved EXTREMELY profitable.
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Old 07-21-2007, 12:10 AM
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Default Re: KK, do i bet this turn for value or check for pot control

Pot control is a valid part of the game but NOT HERE. Bet and bet big there is a straight draw and a flush draw, make them pay for it. At least a PSB.
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Old 07-21-2007, 12:15 AM
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Default Re: KK, do i bet this turn for value or check for pot control

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Pot control is a valid part of the game but NOT HERE. Bet and bet big there is a straight draw and a flush draw, make them pay for it. At least a PSB.

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When I check behind vs this type of villan, it's not for pot control. These guys don't fold on the flop and usually fold on the turn. And they usually fire the river when you check the turn. It's a value check.
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Old 07-21-2007, 12:26 AM
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Default Re: KK, do i bet this turn for value or check for pot control

I guess u might get more value out of QQ and say AJ against certain villains by checking behind, but on that board against this particular villain I DEFINATLY want to just get it in.
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