6max 50nl QQ preflop

[dukemagic]

The table had been playing very crazy as of late, with a lot of re-raising preflop. I was genuinely stumped as to what to do here. I had odds of ~3.5-1, and if either of the players had AA or KK then it's a slightly -EV call. If neither player has an overpair, then it's an easy call, right? Does that make this a close call?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

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<font color="#C00000">Hero ($48.75)</font>
UTG ($59.50)
<font color="#C00000">MP ($31.95)</font>
CO ($31.30)
Button ($15.45)
<font color="#C00000">SB ($30.90)</font>

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1.5</font>, MP calls $1.50, CO calls $1.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $31.95</font>, CO folds, SB calls $27.90 (All-In), Hero ????????

for pot odds discussion: it was a $75 dollar pot to me and 22 for me to call, for odds of 3.4-1.

[wulfpacker21]

easy fold.. .just wait for a better spot ... if the table is crazy then there will be one

[Kasane]

I think you have to call. You don't need this to be AK, AK or AK, JJ very often to be good, and you're almost good as is.

Stove JJ-AA, AKs, AKos -- you said the table was "crazy" and that range is not even crazy, that's just aggro. Against truly crazy you're fine.

[shoxbb6]

I call against 2 60bb stacks whose ranges are much, much wider than KK-AA and getting those odds

[Gelford]

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easy fold.. .just wait for a better spot ... if the table is crazy then there will be one

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Errrr ... no

Get Pokerstove ... put him on a range and you will be surprised, looks like an easy call, especially with the description of the table. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Kasane]

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

6,826,354,920 games 14.190 secs 481,068,000 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 33.665% 29.53% 04.13% 2015955852 282122588.00 { JJ+, AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 33.665% 29.53% 04.13% 2015955852 282122588.00 { JJ+, AKs, AKo }
Hand 2: 32.670% 31.09% 01.58% 2122616448 107581592.00 { QQ }

[checkmate36]

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UTG raises to $1.5, MP calls $1.50, CO calls $1.50, 1 fold, SB raises to $3, Hero raises to $10

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Is just calling here a mistake?

[Kasane]

I ran it for KK+, AK for both opponents, and our equity is almost exactly the same. 33%.

[shoxbb6]

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UTG raises to $1.5, MP calls $1.50, CO calls $1.50, 1 fold, SB raises to $3, Hero raises to $10

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Is just calling here a mistake?

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I'd rather not play oop in what would most likely be a 5 way pot. You have one of the best starting hands in hold'em, you need to raise here for value &amp; protection

[dukemagic]

Okay, yeah, this basically why I ended up calling - I figured they wouldn't have KK or AA every time and so I called.

They had AK (MP) and KK (sb) and I hit a Q to win. I still think it's the right call, but I was wondering what you guys thought. Thanks.