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Old 07-20-2007, 06:53 PM
cheburashka cheburashka is offline
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Default Crippled stack betting into big stack

40 left in stars 10/180

Hero is down but not out, having lost 75% of chips on a very bad beat two hands ago (KK<QQ). Relatively new to table, so no real reads other than that the table has been a limp-o-rama for about an orbit and a half.

Situation: 9-handed, blinds are 100/200
Stacks: Hero has ~1,700 on the button, villain has ~15,000 in the small blind.

Action: Hero is dealt XX. (Miraculously) 6 folds. Hero shoves with with what range?

Now, I would expect that with such a low M and with somewhat more even stacks, the range would be very wide--even ATC would be pretty reasonable.

My question is, does betting into a monster stack change that, because the monster is a lot more likely to fly-swat a shorty?
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Old 07-20-2007, 08:20 PM
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Default Re: Crippled stack betting into big stack

Shove ATC. The next blind level is 150/300/25, which will take your M down to 2.5. At this limpy of a table, you're not likely to get many opportunities to open shove, especially from LP.

Maybe, if SB has a defective copy of the stars software that came without a fold button, and the blinds don't go up for another 14 minutes, and you have 32o, you can fold. Otherwise pick up the 300 chips or you'll get blinded off.
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Old 07-20-2007, 08:28 PM
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Default Re: Crippled stack betting into big stack

I am thinking your range is pretty wide, yeah he is going to be calling with a lot of hands but that means that a lot of the time you are going to be something like a 3-2 favorite or a 3-2 dog, or racing. I think we push AK-A2, KQ, KJ, QJ, JT, AA-22, 56s and up KT-K5, and QT-Q5. If we are dealt a very weak hand we can afford to wait because of our position and the fact that there are no antes yet.

Edited- Dave the next blind structure is 100/200 25 not 150/300.
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Old 07-20-2007, 08:58 PM
b-komplex b-komplex is offline
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Default Re: Crippled stack betting into big stack

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I am thinking your range is pretty wide, yeah he is going to be calling with a lot of hands but that means that a lot of the time you are going to be something like a 3-2 favorite or a 3-2 dog, or racing. I think we push AK-A2, KQ, KJ, QJ, JT, AA-22, 56s and up KT-K5, and QT-Q5. If we are dealt a very weak hand we can afford to wait because of our position and the fact that there are no antes yet.

Edited- Dave the next blind structure is 100/200 25 not 150/300.

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I like this range but I might fold the weaker Qs and SCs - you don't need to shove hopeless garbage yet but I am looking for anything remotely +EV.
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Old 07-20-2007, 10:39 PM
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Default Re: Crippled stack betting into big stack

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Edited- Dave the next blind structure is 100/200 25 not 150/300.

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They're using the new blind structure on the x/180s now. The 100/200/25 level has been replaced with 150/300/25.
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Old 07-20-2007, 10:43 PM
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Default Re: Crippled stack betting into big stack

O,sorry I didn't know that, my mistake. My range would stay pretty similar.
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