3+R, Facing Push From Button w/ 77

[brea]

Let me preface this post with some of my history. I have am a fairly good sit n go player with limited experience in tourneys. I won a 11$ turbo a few weeks ago for my 1st win. At this point, I am trying to get into the mindstate of MTT player. Please offer all advice.

My stack was average at this point and I had watched this player steal blinds from the button on numerous occasions. Is this a bad call?

PokerStars Game #11030271113: Tournament #55429435, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (500/1000) - 2007/07/19 - 22:52:51 (ET)
Table '55429435 269' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Zoohora (30289 in chips)
Seat 2: TICKMAN101 (48560 in chips)
Seat 3: Blackturnip (36290 in chips)
Seat 4: WB123456789 (20640 in chips)
Seat 5: Spice_Man75 (46295 in chips)
Seat 6: megas (11570 in chips)
Seat 7: brea (29495 in chips)
Seat 8: tpriddick (8743 in chips)
Seat 9: GimmeUrChpz (32005 in chips)
Zoohora: posts the ante 100
TICKMAN101: posts the ante 100
Blackturnip: posts the ante 100
WB123456789: posts the ante 100
Spice_Man75: posts the ante 100
megas: posts the ante 100
brea: posts the ante 100
tpriddick: posts the ante 100
GimmeUrChpz: posts the ante 100
brea: posts small blind 500
tpriddick: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to brea [7c 7d]
GimmeUrChpz: folds
Zoohora: folds
TICKMAN101: folds
Blackturnip: folds
WB123456789: folds
Spice_Man75: folds
megas: raises 10470 to 11470 and is all-in
brea: calls 10970
tpriddick: folds
*** FLOP *** [Ac 8h 6s]
*** TURN *** [Ac 8h 6s] [5s]
*** RIVER *** [Ac 8h 6s 5s] [8d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
brea: shows [7c 7d] (two pair, Eights and Sevens)
megas: shows [Ah Kc] (two pair, Aces and Eights)
megas collected 24840 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 24840 | Rake 0
Board [Ac 8h 6s 5s 8d]
Seat 1: Zoohora folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: TICKMAN101 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Blackturnip folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: WB123456789 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Spice_Man75 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: megas (button) showed [Ah Kc] and won (24840) with two pair, Aces and Eights
Seat 7: brea (small blind) showed [7c 7d] and lost with two pair, Eights and Sevens
Seat 8: tpriddick (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: GimmeUrChpz folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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[usha]

Use converter please

Anyway, your pot odds are about 1.173 to 1 (calling 10970 into a 12870 pot), which are about 46%

Considering the following range

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 41.149% 40.93% 00.21% 479425176 2515026.00 { 77 }
Hand 1: 58.851% 58.64% 00.21% 686760708 2515026.00 { 88+, A8s, KJs+, ATo+, KQo }

you have 41% equity, so this isn't a good call.
If you loosen villain's range then its a break even call. I would fold here

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 46.057% 45.53% 00.53% 734351088 8547138.00 { 77 }
Hand 1: 53.943% 53.41% 00.53% 861545004 8547138.00 { 66+, A8s, KJs+, A8o+, KJo+ }

[wulfpacker21]

use a converter and don't show results...

[Pokerfarian]

Surely he's pushing much wider than "{66+, A8s, KJs+, A8o+, KJo+}" and thus you should get your chips in the middle

[brea]

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Use converter please

Anyway, your pot odds are about 1.173 to 1 (calling 10970 into a 12870 pot), which are about 46%

Considering the following range

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 41.149% 40.93% 00.21% 479425176 2515026.00 { 77 }
Hand 1: 58.851% 58.64% 00.21% 686760708 2515026.00 { 88+, A8s, KJs+, ATo+, KQo }

you have 41% equity, so this isn't a good call.
If you loosen villain's range then its a break even call. I would fold here

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 46.057% 45.53% 00.53% 734351088 8547138.00 { 77 }
Hand 1: 53.943% 53.41% 00.53% 861545004 8547138.00 { 66+, A8s, KJs+, A8o+, KJo+ }

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Thanks for your response. I just found this site and was eager to post my question. After I posted it, I saw the mention of the hand converter... Noted for future reference.

I had seen this same player make these bold moves in the past. I was confident that I had the best hand preflop but once I lost the pot I wasn't so confident in my initial decision to call. This tournament strategy is way different than a sit n go.

Thanks.

[bigchips HI]

no, its not a bad call.

a push from the player on the button who is extremely shortstacked has a very wide range of hands for pushing here. he needs to steal those blinds to stay alive and keep him in contention. if you didnt notice, when he steals the blinds he increases his stack by at least 30%. If I were him, I would be shoving almost any 2 cards.

77 is a monster here and a big favorite over his range. call and hope he doesnt hit some miracle. here he got lucky enough to find a real hand, it happens some times, but you lost a race and you took a good gamble here.

[usha]

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no, its not a bad call.

a push from the player on the button who is extremely shortstacked has a very wide range of hands for pushing here. he needs to steal those blinds to stay alive and keep him in contention. if you didnt notice, when he steals the blinds he increases his stack by at least 30%. If I were him, I would be shoving almost any 2 cards.

77 is a monster here and a big favorite over his range. call and hope he doesnt hit some miracle. here he got lucky enough to find a real hand, it happens some times, but you lost a race and you took a good gamble here.

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I stand corrected, you are right. I mistakenly didn't notice button's M ~ 5-6. Indeed, button's range is way more wide, so its a call.

[wulfpacker21]

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no, its not a bad call.

a push from the player on the button who is extremely shortstacked has a very wide range of hands for pushing here. he needs to steal those blinds to stay alive and keep him in contention. if you didnt notice, when he steals the blinds he increases his stack by at least 30%. If I were him, I would be shoving almost any 2 cards.

77 is a monster here and a big favorite over his range. call and hope he doesnt hit some miracle. here he got lucky enough to find a real hand, it happens some times, but you lost a race and you took a good gamble here.

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