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Old 07-19-2007, 11:35 AM
rwb78 rwb78 is offline
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Default folding KK preflop

UTG was 20/13/0.65 over 50 hands.

I could only think of AA and I folded the hand.
What are your opinions on this play?


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) by Hand Converter CG

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Hero ($24.30)
UTG ($46.90)
MP ($23.75)
CO ($23.30)
Button ($20.55)
SB ($8)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1</font>, MP calls $1, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4.25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $12.5</font>, MP folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $17.85
<font color="#009B00">Main Pot: $9.60, won by UTG.</font>
<font color="#009B00">Pot 2: $8.25, returned to UTG.</font>
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Old 07-19-2007, 11:37 AM
CobraGoat CobraGoat is offline
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Default Re: folding KK preflop

lol. never fold this for a buy in.
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Old 07-19-2007, 11:39 AM
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Default Re: folding KK preflop

lol are you joking man not for one buyin and esepcially not at .25 NL.

Never fold KK preflop
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Old 07-19-2007, 11:42 AM
Perk76 Perk76 is offline
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Default Re: folding KK preflop

Here is a post that I posted in last week regarding a similiar spot. There are numerous ones. Without getting back into detail, the general consensus is dont fold KK preflop for 100bb's. There is more info in the FAQ's etc regarding this, since its a common question.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...ue#Post11135826
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Old 07-19-2007, 11:45 AM
mattnxtc mattnxtc is offline
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Default Re: folding KK preflop

And he doesnt ever have ak or qq here?

This is just not a good fold.
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Old 07-19-2007, 11:50 AM
rwb78 rwb78 is offline
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Default Re: folding KK preflop

learning a lot here the last few day [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] Thanks ! It is indeed the related post what goes trough my mind &gt;&gt; KK losing to AA where there is a range of other hands left.
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:25 PM
Nemesis69 Nemesis69 is offline
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Default Re: folding KK preflop

You should never fold KK preflop for a buyin.
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:28 PM
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wat kinda avatar is that nem :S
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Old 07-19-2007, 01:51 PM
StubbornRussian StubbornRussian is offline
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Default Re: folding KK preflop

I cant imagine myself ever folding KK pf but I have noted that the last 3 times I 4bet with KK and villain insta shoved he had AA each time. Usually guys will think for a little bit about history and crap before they shove JJ, QQ, or AK, AQ. But I guess the instashove could be done out of frustration, drunkeness, or anger so my observation is probably worthless.
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Old 07-19-2007, 01:55 PM
CmnDwnWrkn CmnDwnWrkn is offline
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Default Re: folding KK preflop

Stats help with this. If the villain has like a 1.5 PF raise %, you can be pretty sure you're up against AA. Otherwise, I think you need to play it
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