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Old 07-19-2007, 04:37 AM
rpr rpr is offline
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Default Value betting an overpair on paired board and TPTK

I'm looking for help value betting. First hand I think villain has a small pp, I think a FD is more possible than a 9 so I likely should bet the turn? What do I bet on the river?

Second hand I check the turn because I didn't like the J and I wanted to keep the pot reasonable. I'm definitely betting a blank on the river, but do I bet 1/2 pot, 3/4 or pot if I think he has a weak Q, 2nd pair or a small PP?

300NL 6-max

Effective stacks $289

Hero is dealt [Jc,Js] on the BTN
Limper, I raise to $14

DEALING FLOP [6c,9s,5s]

Villain checks, Hero bets $24, called

DEALING TURN [9c] (pot $78)

Villain checks, Hero checks

DEALING RIVER [4d]

Villain checks, Hero ???

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Effective stacks $364

Hero is dealt [Ah,Qc] in the CO
I raise to $11, 1 caller

DEALING FLOP [Qs,8c,6h]

Villain checks, Hero bets $20, called

DEALING TURN [Jd]

Villain checks, Hero checks

DEALING RIVER [4s] ($61 pot)

Villain bets $27.50, Hero ???
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Old 07-19-2007, 10:46 AM
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Default Re: Value betting an overpair on paired board and TPTK

hand 1: i like the turn check because he can be checkraising so many hands. on the river, bet 48-52.

hand 2: i probably call about 80% of the time and raise the rest to 78.
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Old 07-19-2007, 11:01 AM
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Default Re: Value betting an overpair on paired board and TPTK

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hand 1: i like the turn check because he can be checkraising so many hands. on the river, bet 48-52.

hand 2: i probably call about 80% of the time and raise the rest to 78.

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this is gold
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:48 PM
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Default Re: Value betting an overpair on paired board and TPTK

sarcasm?
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:52 PM
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Default Re: Value betting an overpair on paired board and TPTK

Hand 1: I think you should bet here, in case he has something like 77,88, or TT. It looks like a busted draw though.

Hand 2: I call river. Raising is terrible.
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Old 07-19-2007, 01:08 PM
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Default Re: Value betting an overpair on paired board and TPTK

Hand 1: He wouldn't check river with a 9 in hopes to check raise. You checked turn, so he knows that you're not that strong. Therefore, if he has a 9, he would likely bet the river for value. I think you'll get paid off with a smaller pp. I would bet at least 1/2 pot. I would bet more if I had stats on him.

Hand 2: instacall. You induced a bluff, so now you have to pay him off. Raising is terrible because you wouldn't get called by hands you beat.
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