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Old 07-18-2007, 10:55 PM
mathemagician54 mathemagician54 is offline
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Default 100nl bvb 150 deep rr pot

villain is 21/21/infty over 85 hands.

i've 3bet him 4 times in not too many hands and he's folded every time. (this is 5tyh time i 4bet him at this table)

I think the check on flop is good, but what about turn raise? What if he shoves?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $152.30
Hero (BB): $184.15
UTG: $199.95
MP: $105.60
CO: $175.50
BTN: $101.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
4 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $4.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $14.00</font>, SB calls $10.00

Flop: ($28) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($28) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $18.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $54.00</font>, SB folds

Pot Size: $100.00 ($3 Rake)
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Old 07-18-2007, 11:24 PM
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Default Re: 100nl bvb 150 deep rr pot

you 3 bet him in this hand. Why do you like your check on the flop? In the future don't show that he folds to your raise. I wouldn't mind calling the turn here some of the time when I have the A of diamonds.
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Old 07-18-2007, 11:29 PM
mathemagician54 mathemagician54 is offline
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Default Re: 100nl bvb 150 deep rr pot

because it would suck to get checkraised on that flop, as i have gutter+backdoor fd.

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Old 07-18-2007, 11:30 PM
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Default Re: 100nl bvb 150 deep rr pot

Would you check AA, KK, QQ, TT on the flop?


I feel that just calling the turn bet is better than raising because you cant really call if he shoves.
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Old 07-18-2007, 11:30 PM
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Don't like the turn raise. He's never calling - just shoving or folding. You can't afford to call a shove. You turn your hand into a bluff when you have a hand that you can showdown and with lots of outs when behind.
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Old 07-18-2007, 11:32 PM
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because it would suck to get checkraised on that flop, as i have gutter+backdoor fd.



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I'd rather win the pot with nothing then wait to try and make a hand.
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Old 07-18-2007, 11:34 PM
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call turn, flop is ok so is beting, i would bet in a vacuum
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Old 07-18-2007, 11:36 PM
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turn raise sucks, you had the best hand. You're either getting called by better and have to hit your flush/st8 or he is folding.
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Old 07-18-2007, 11:37 PM
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I bet the flop, mixing it up a bit here is fine though (edit: given history I prefer checking the flop this time). Def call turn.
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Old 07-18-2007, 11:37 PM
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Don't like the turn raise. He's never calling - just shoving or folding. You can't afford to call a shove. You turn your hand into a bluff when you have a hand that you can showdown and with lots of outs when behind.

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Okay, I agree with this now. Thanks.

Dire would you bet flop or no?

I think the fact that I would bet AA/KK here is not too relevant given that I've 3bet him a lot. Since he's always folded my 3bets, either:

a) he has a really strong hand that will at least call the flop bet

or

b) he's just making a play, in which case it's not terrible to check behind and possibly let him bluff turn.
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