AK early OOP

runhot · #1 07-18-2007, 04:50 PM

hows this look? standard?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 (t1500)
CO (t1490)
Button (t1470)
Hero (t1530)
BB (t1500)
UTG (t3130)
UTG+1 (t1380)
MP1 (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls t20, UTG+1 calls t20, 4 folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t80) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets t60, BB calls t60, UTG calls t60, UTG+1 calls t60.

Turn: (t320) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets t220, Hero folds, BB folds, UTG folds.

Final Pot: t320

kuey · #2 07-18-2007, 04:52 PM

no raise pf? I'd make it 120~140.

but hey, what do i know

STALLOWN3D · #3 07-18-2007, 04:52 PM

Buy in?

You need to raise pf, about 100-120.
Flop bet is fine.
I'd prefer to bet flop and get raised to know we're beat since UTG+1 could have a lot hands that you have beat right now, but as I played I probably fold the turn.

Reads would really help here.

DeuceSeven · #4 07-18-2007, 05:11 PM

Raise it up, limping is awful. I raise to 120 or so. I play everything the same besides pf.

dj32 · #5 07-18-2007, 05:15 PM

Buy-in is critical. If this is an $11 or lower, I don't see how you can fold the turn. UTG+1 could have AJ or two pair here, but most likely he's got Qx or Kx.

Now if it's a higher buy-in, then I guess a fold is an option, although it still seems weak to me.

bkar824 · #6 07-18-2007, 05:17 PM

Yeah, raise PF obviously.

As played...block bet the turn. 1/2 pot it. Fold to raise.

ManChild · #7 07-18-2007, 05:20 PM

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Buy-in is critical. If this is an $11 or lower, I don't see how you can fold the turn. UTG+1 could have AJ or two pair here, but most likely he's got Qx or Kx.

Now if it's a higher buy-in, then I guess a fold is an option, although it still seems weak to me.

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not that i dont agree with you, but when you say 'he has Qx or Kx here. you do realize that a lot of the combinations of those hands that he could have would give him 2 pair. its unlikely that he has K6 K2 Q5 Q7 kinda crap

runhot · #8 07-18-2007, 05:21 PM

this is a 27 turbo..
no reads. this is the third hand.

i will raise AK except from the SB/ BB with limpers in the early stages..

block bet this turn? i bet the flop and got 3 CALLERS!!!

i dont know, but cant think i'm beating anything..

dj32 · #9 07-18-2007, 05:30 PM

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Buy-in is critical. If this is an $11 or lower, I don't see how you can fold the turn. UTG+1 could have AJ or two pair here, but most likely he's got Qx or Kx.

Now if it's a higher buy-in, then I guess a fold is an option, although it still seems weak to me.

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not that i dont agree with you, but when you say 'he has Qx or Kx here. you do realize that a lot of the combinations of those hands that he could have would give him 2 pair. its unlikely that he has K6 K2 Q5 Q7 kinda crap

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Yeah, I do get your point. However, my experience from the $11s and lower is that villains will limp with Kx and Qx including K9, K8, K6, etc. It may be a tougher call than I originally thought - you will see two pair here sometimes, but I think you'll see one pair enough to make it +EV. You'll also see flush draws a lot. Again, I'm only talking about the $11s and lower.

bkar824 · #10 07-18-2007, 05:31 PM

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this is a 27 turbo..
no reads. this is the third hand.

i will raise AK except from the SB/ BB with limpers in the early stages..

block bet this turn? i bet the flop and got 3 CALLERS!!!

i dont know, but cant think i'm beating anything..

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3 callers? How are you going to know you're beat if you don't bet? If you check they can raise with anything.

And if you get flat called you still got outs to pick up the pot.