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Old 07-18-2007, 01:08 PM
rwb78 rwb78 is offline
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Default pushing the flop with KK two players left

They called my pre flop reraise of $4. The only thing that bothered me was the straight draw. Because I thought they could have had a draw or big overcard I pushed the flop so if they would call it would not be correct.

Any suggestions for another approach?

greetings,
Rob

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) by Hand Converter CG

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Hero ($53.05)</font>
UTG ($34.55)
MP ($13.25)
CO ($20.85)
<font color="#C00000">Button ($25.60)</font>
SB ($4)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1.25</font>, MP folds, CO folds, Button calls $1.25, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, UTG calls $2.75, Button calls $2.75.

Flop: ($12.10) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $49.05 (All-In)</font>...

(what happens after your last action is irrelevant to the discussion--aj)
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Old 07-18-2007, 01:14 PM
ocdscale ocdscale is offline
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Default Re: pushing the flop with KK two players left

Edit results out. Results are irrelevant to your decision.

Preflop, I like a bigger raise because you will be OOP and there are already two limpers. I pop it to ~$5.5-6 most of the time here.
On the flop, shoving is really bad. Very few people will call with worse hands.

That said, I lead out for ~10.
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Old 07-18-2007, 01:21 PM
Perk76 Perk76 is offline
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Default Re: pushing the flop with KK two players left

You force your opponents to play perfect here.

Just bet the flop 3/4 - full pot as with any other CB, and make your decision from there depending on what the villan/villans do.
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Old 07-18-2007, 01:24 PM
AZplaya AZplaya is offline
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Default Re: pushing the flop with KK two players left

???
I was thinking he allows his opponents to play perfectly against him with this move...
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Old 07-18-2007, 03:20 PM
meleader2 meleader2 is offline
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Default Re: pushing the flop with KK two players left

YOU JUST LOST THE BATTLE OF MISTAKES
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Old 07-18-2007, 03:30 PM
Capone Capone is offline
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Default Re: pushing the flop with KK two players left

Yeah bet $10 or so on the flop the shove is horrible. You allow your opponents to play perfectly, and fold worse hands.
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Old 07-18-2007, 04:21 PM
rwb78 rwb78 is offline
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Default Re: pushing the flop with KK two players left

Thanks guys. The answer is very clear. Good advice for me.
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Old 07-18-2007, 04:32 PM
wulfpacker21 wulfpacker21 is offline
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Default Re: pushing the flop with KK two players left

why are you pushing... the only hand calling you is a hand that beats you... as everyone says bet like 8-10$
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