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Old 07-18-2007, 01:02 PM
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Default JJ, tough spot

UTG is groinal, only 400 hands but he's shaping up as a solid 24/18 reg. Some of you guys probably know more.

SB is flaneur, imo somewhat of a TAGfish at 30/15 and fairly predictable post-flop, I don't think he's liable to squeeze in this spot so he probably has a decent hand (although the big aces are quite possible, of course).

Anyway, if we call the flop we're basically hoping to check it down right? Anyone just fold? Anyone raise?!

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $20 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($3989)
SB ($2466)
BB ($1000)
UTG ($2494)
MP ($2580.50)
CO ($3435)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $80</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $80, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $260</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $180, Hero calls $180.

Flop: ($800) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $400</font>
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Old 07-18-2007, 01:32 PM
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Default Re: JJ, tough spot

Without other reads I fold. Seems pretty weak but basically if we call we're hoping SB isn't check/raising and that UTG doesnt fire another barrel on later strets. Too much needs to go right for this to work out for us so fold and take note of the action.
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Old 07-18-2007, 08:19 PM
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Default Re: JJ, tough spot

Bump one time...
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Old 07-18-2007, 08:21 PM
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Default Re: JJ, tough spot

such a yucky spot, i go broke though!
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Old 07-18-2007, 08:45 PM
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tough hand. i think its a fold because UTG is apparently a solid player and he has to realize YOUR range slammed this board and he still doesnt care. there is slightly less than 1 psb left after the $400 flop lead and he has to worry about a c/r ai by SBs possible overpairs and your sets/2prs/whatever. so i think he is very strong here and we still cannot eliminate KK+ from his range.
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Old 07-18-2007, 08:48 PM
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If I raise it'd be a min raise. I'd call most likely.
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:05 AM
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I'm folding this. It's hard to imagine he's bluffing into two people like this since you would probably play 99/55/66 and maybe 56/78 the same way pre.
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:31 AM
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If i knew a bit more, i might like raising as a bluff here.

I wouldn't assume UTG's bet has to be a set here, QQ KK AA 77 88 etc, it's half pot, with a range of hands that probably want to test the waters a little against the other villain. The other villain should be dropping aces pretty easily if you raise.
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Old 07-19-2007, 06:44 AM
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I guess this is close then. In the hand, I took the easy option and folded, although this felt pretty weak, which is why I decided to post it. In retrospect I think I like a flop call, even though things aren't gonna get any easier from thereon.
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